"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Girl says her best friend is a gay bloke
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"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
mrgoodstuff
Master Don Juan
He might not be gay, might just be a male friend that she occasionally bangs. But they aren't exclusive. She let you know she's available.
Prodoge
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In that case he is not really gay is he ? Lmao
“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”
Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.
I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.
Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules. Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.
Prodoge
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I wasn't planning on being disrespectful just because he likes getting his @sshole expanded occasionally. That's his choice not mine.
I wanted to know if there is something out of the ordinary with a girl who has a gay guy as best friend and not another girl.
Well for one dont make snarky comments like that about him. That makes you look brutish. If you have secret reservations about homosexuals keep them to yourself.
Bokanovsky
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Bible_Belt
Master Don Juan
The OP's girl is probably just feeling him out to see if he hates gay people. I think the right answer is to say, "Cool. We should all hang out sometime." And that is the best way to make your own judgment of the guy, meeting him in person. As alluded to earlier, sexuality is a spectrum. There are a lot of bi guys. But there are also gay guys who are never going to be attracted to a woman.
My ex wife had one of the latter, a childhood friend who really did sound like a woman on the phone. I was always nice to him. Years later, she and I were fighting because she had gained a lot of weight. All of her female friends said I was an assh0le. The gay guy was the only one who took my side. "Girl, this is NOT what he signed up for" was what he said to her. She took that advice and went on a diet.
Gonna be honest with you. If anything the only red flag is that you care enough to try to play detective about this
Even if it did mean something, who cares? It's just another girl. You'll find out more about her when she's in your bed
Blacksheep
Master Don Juan
Or, another theory is: they have sex with the Alpha's to get their physical desires supplied and then the gay friends could be like the Betas that suplies their needs of attention and emotional intimacy. It's really an idea, not guessing that this is the right one.
If anyone have some idea about that, share please. I would like to hear what you think about it.
A girl who has a gayboy best friend is a major no no.
Firstly, yes you have to question why she doesn't have a female as a best friend. Does she not make good relationships with her own sex? why? is it because other women don't like her? she doesn't like other women?
Secondly, a gay will corrupt her mind. A woman who starts hanging out with gay boys changes. She doesn't have the same mind or personality that she had before meeting the gay boy. She will become more liberal. More hedonist. Maybe even start speaking in gay language when she's with them. I wouldn't really fear that she'd sleep with them as most "out" gays are simply gay degenerates (no biness). It's the mind, personality and values that you would worry about.
mrgoodstuff
Master Don Juan
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
flowtheory
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Women in social circles are very catty and talk behind each other’s backs even if they are good friends. Gay men are very fluid and easy going, but still have the male instinct of being direct when the situation calls for it. Most women appreciate it as gay men can call them out on their bs, rather than just nod and agree with the woman when she’s saying ridiculous things about the male. Think of it as... best of both worlds.
If you’re worried about her gay bestie having sex with her, than you have other issues you need resolve within yourself.