"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Nope, he is right. I should have set boundaries from the get go. Lesson learned. This was my first "relationship" after the divorce and I admit that I handled it like an AFC.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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This is about a woman i dated for about 1.5 years. Turned out she f$cked married man in the past. I found out about two occasions, there may be more. The minute I found out, I new I had to drop her, gradually I demoted her to a plate, and eventually had to drop her completely.

Now, at the time I found these things out, I told her what the F did you do married men for? She said that she didn't know that they were married and she found out later on about it. May be it is true, but still this single fact immediately disqualified her as an LTR material for me.

What do you guys think, maybe I was too hard on her? She was hurt by the fact that I was not OK with all of this. But yet she didn't try to hide it either.
Why do guys commit to pond scum?
 

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Married men are attractive because it means other women approve of them
I am still angry that this is true.

Social proof.

I'm sick of being disrespected. Good on rart for gtfo, he must be sickened by the disrespect too.


I swear disrespect is a form of violence-passive aggressive violence, or it wouldn't feel like you've just been hit.

Stay strong rart
 
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You made the right call. If she’ll screw around on her H. Guess what man..... you’ll be next.

forget her move on
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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She’s not relationship material. Move on
 

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Married men are attractive because it means other women approve of them

Women don't have the same moral structure as men because their feelings overrule, landing them in sticky situations which of course is never their fault

Women = Nature
Men= Order
That is not true because I was married myself and I didn't see a dramatic rise in SMV because I got married, or any rise at all for that matter during the marriage. If your SMV/LMS is too low then your wife will not respect you and you'll have a bad marriage.

I have a cousin who is in a bad marriage and he complains allot about his wife beating him up and I can tell you that he is definitely getting allot of women.
 

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Dont call her your Gf, next her or keep her as a plate if you can handle it.

This is extremely low quality, if you stay with her lots of drama will hapens.
She has low morals
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I don't want to sound like a devil's advocate but why is it wrong if she had slept with married men before you? Her past has nothing to do with her relationship with you in present. If she slept with married men so what? Haven't married men slept with women outside their relationships? I am not advocating anything but simply saying that it is not a deal breaker in itself. Look at the present. Is she good to you? If so, then enjoy and cherish that. I think we put too much value on rear view mirror ruining what is before us.

Peace!
 

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That is not true because I was married myself and I didn't see a dramatic rise in SMV because I got married, or any rise at all for that matter during the marriage. If your SMV/LMS is too low then your wife will not respect you and you'll have a bad marriage.

I have a cousin who is in a bad marriage and he complains allot about his wife beating him up and I can tell you that he is definitely getting allot of women.
Praise the lord
 

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I don't want to sound like a devil's advocate but why is it wrong if she had slept with married men before you? Her past has nothing to do with her relationship with you in present. If she slept with married men so what? Haven't married men slept with women outside their relationships? I am not advocating anything but simply saying that it is not a deal breaker in itself. Look at the present. Is she good to you? If so, then enjoy and cherish that. I think we put too much value on rear view mirror ruining what is before us.

Peace!
Its a glympse of whats is likely gonna happen.
It is also a indication of bad judgment and low inhibition. Those character traits dont often change.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Especialy when you know they are scum
I remember being a kid. A tv show I watched, the protagonist began crushing some guys fiancé. No ****, it was the beginning of the degenerate society we see today. Not surprisingly, the protagonist gets pummeled even on the TV show.

It's definitely a big deal and tell tale sign of dark triad traits in a female to have a history with married men + be that open as if to brag about it.

Op, downgrade to booty call.
 

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Its a glympse of whats is likely gonna happen.
It is also a indication of bad judgment and low inhibition. Those character traits dont often change.
I totally agree.

I am not the moral arbitration of virtue lol.

I have cucked guys before allbeit unconsciously. As in, I went for a girl, she had a man, and st no time did she say or shut me down.

It's clearly a indication that the women are not oriented right. The short term success of acquisition is short lived given her low inhibitions and poor lifestyle choices.

It's a free for all in the world today for women. The sec any unflattering elements of women are pointed out, divorce rape for example, the brigade of victimhood and misandry rants pop off. The rich coop female call out is classic. She didn't deny the truth Rich spoke. She responded with a word salad and female logic.
 

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The marriage failed badly and ended in divorce so how can you say that without being sarcastic?
Cousin was getting beaten up. Likely cucked but he had lots of women. Im glad he cared enuf for himself to take on the women.
 

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Cousin was getting beaten up. Likely cucked but he had lots of women. Im glad he cared enuf for himself to take on the women.
Dont get what you are saying. No he was not popular with the ladies before he met his wife. He was heartbroken by a two timing lady he wanted to date but saw her accidentally with another guy. He cant move out hecause his credit is bad. He would love to leave her if he had the credit abd no children with her.
 

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Dont get what you are saying. No he was not popular with the ladies before he met his wife. He was heartbroken by a two timing lady he wanted to date but saw her accidentally with another guy. He cant move out hecause his credit is bad. He would love to leave her if he had the credit abd no children with her.
"And i can tell you he's getting alot of women". So he got the ladies after being cheated?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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