"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Getting jacked/ripped would eliminate 85% of the problems on this forum..

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“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Blackbird, I have had sex with 7 different women over the past year, entirely from dating apps. Rejected a couple of offers for sex as well.

I agree with you, sex is no big deal. It's never something worth going on vacation for. So many thirsty makes have low SMV women walking around with inflated egos.
 

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Blackbird, I have had sex with 7 different women over the past year, entirely from dating apps. Rejected a couple of offers for sex as well.

I agree with you, sex is no big deal. It's never something worth going on vacation for. So many thirsty makes have low SMV women walking around with inflated egos.
It's not worth it to have fun?

7 in the past year? I've probably been with over 100 in the past year, not that I really keep count.

Even though it's "no big deal" that doesn't mean you can just turn your sex drive off.
 

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I've maybe had 7/8 in my whole life, my issue is turning my sex drive on.
 

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It's not worth it to have fun?

7 in the past year? I've probably been with over 100 in the past year, not that I really keep count.

Even though it's "no big deal" that doesn't mean you can just turn your sex drive off.
There are more enjoyable, less risky and more rewarding forms of entertainment out there.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Okay, both of you Snag and Guy 69 are delusional.
 

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I've maybe had 7/8 in my whole life, my issue is turning my sex drive on.
Same issue, but likely to a lesser degree. It's funny, I often see guys boasting about having had sex with 100+ girls in a year or 1,500 in their lifetimes. My reaction is generally, "um, who wants to do that?"

I understand men are driven to procreate, but still, I'd like to have some emotional connection to my sex partners.
 

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I disagree; most men can achieve 6 pack abs if they're truly dedicated. The issue is mass. The majority of guys with 6 pack abs are lean and muscular.
On paper yes... However men over the age of 35, how many are walking around with 6 pack as... Not many!
 

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I disagree; most men can achieve 6 pack abs if they're truly dedicated. The issue is mass. The majority of guys with 6 pack abs are lean and muscular.
You are wrong. and clearly not living in reality.. Yes on paper every dude could achieve 6 pack abs.. However in the real world this isn't the case.

I clearly stated men over 35 or so... Men of that age & above, tend to settle of the big arms, chest, legs, shoulders etc.. However abs tend not to be high priority, as age 35 and over getting lean abs is very difficult.

You mean the minority of men can get them.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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You are wrong. and clearly not living in reality.. Yes on paper every dude could achieve 6 pack abs.. However in the real world this isn't the case.

I clearly stated men over 35 or so... Men of that age & above, tend to settle of the big arms, chest, legs, shoulders etc.. However abs tend not to be high priority, as age 35 and over getting lean abs is very difficult.

You mean the minority of men can get them.
Apologize, I missed the over 35. If you're over 35 and are prioritizing mass (big shoulders, etc) yea, precious few men will achieve 6 pack abs. If you're willing to sacrifice mass a much higher percentage could.
 

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I did the gym thing last year, got into pretty good shape but it had zero effect on my bodycount
which remains zero for over two years now. I do a physical job, typically walking about 9 miles a
day and stacking crates of heavy vegetables onto dollies. Pretty low body fat, no gut, leanly built
with no wobbly bits. 6ft tall. I have a footballer/swimmers build, shoulder length hair, symmetrical
face, a growing tattoo collection already in double figures, dress well, own multiple properties, play
musical instruments, ride a lairy motorcycle, have green eyes (one of the rarer eye colours) I'm tanned,
can sing really well, great sense of humour although it's pretty dark. I spend any nights off in my friends
c0cktail bar where I have oodles of social proof and can go behind the bar anytime I want and everybody
that works there treats me like a celebrity because I'm buddies with their boss. My issue is I absolutely
will NOT approach women, under any circumstances because ultimately I don't see sex as any kind of prize
It's all a complete waste of time. These women want Bradchad Thunderc0ck 8pack billionaire
Superman Grey, even if they are massive fat heffers with absolutely sod all to offer themselves.
I'm so disillusioned with it all that I have completely given up trying to be what they want.
It's like trying to ice skate up a hill.

I smashed 3 girls only two weeks ago... And I workout loads... So what's your point.

You ain't getting any vag.. You happen to workout & you haven't had any sex for years.

It's unlikely you would get sex, Wether you hit the gym or not.

I posted a picture of myself looking jacked on tinder on 3 days ago & my match rate has more than doubled.

Your an expetion.. The expetion doesn't make the rule.

The vast majority of men who workout on this forum, are posting nothing but positive results.
 

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I smashed 3 girls only two weeks ago... And I workout loads... So what's your point.

You ain't getting any vag.. You happen to workout & you haven't had any sex for years.

It's unlikely you would get sex, Wether you hit the gym or not.

I posted a picture of myself looking jacked on tinder on 3 days ago & my match rate has more than doubled.

Your an expetion.. The expetion doesn't make the rule.

The vast majority of men who workout on this forum, are posting nothing but positive results.
Really? Most men are stating in helps them attract women, not keep them.
 

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I smashed 3 girls only two weeks ago... And I workout loads... So what's your point.

You ain't getting any vag.. You happen to workout & you haven't had any sex for years.

It's unlikely you would get sex, Wether you hit the gym or not.

I posted a picture of myself looking jacked on tinder on 3 days ago & my match rate has more than doubled.

Your an expetion.. The expetion doesn't make the rule.

The vast majority of men who workout on this forum, are posting nothing but positive results.
I realize it's weird asking for photos of girls...

But if you're willing to, I think we'd all be interested to see. Or as much as you're willing to do.
 

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It's unlikely you would get sex, Wether you hit the gym or not.
Now we're getting to the crux of things. And why would that be?
Is it my age? The fact I don't have any kids? Lack of day to day friends for the most part?
Having an ex wife and therefore a failed marriage? Complete reluctance to approach?
Tinder was a waste of time, as was Bumble. Sure I got matches but nothing that led to
even so much as a date. Knowing what finicky creatures women are is it just something as
insignificant as a bad haircut? Maybe it's me not wanting a hosed out old bag with multiple
kids I didn't father. If you're going to make a statement like that I'd appreciate you putting
some clothes on your point, after all I'm here to learn.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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My success rate with women would skyrocket if I’d get some visible tattoos. I’m not even kidding. Last year I went to a huge Halloween party and I dressed up wearing a plain white t-shirt, jeans, bought some really nice fake tattoos and put one that was under my shirt coming up to my neck, and the rest I did on one arm. When I tell you I had more women come up to me and initiate conversation “so what are you supposed to be?” I’m not kidding.
 

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My success rate with women would skyrocket if I’d get some visible tattoos. Last year I went to a huge Halloween party and I dressed up wearing a plain white t-shirt, jeans, bought some really nice fake tattoos and put one that was under my shirt coming up to my neck, and the rest I did on one arm. When I tell you I had more women come up to me and initiate conversation “so what are you supposed to be?” I’m not kidding.
That makes me a little sad, because I have absolutely zero interest in getting any tattoos, and I'm sure not getting any just to impress some random women. Take it or leave it, girls. But I could see them drawing more interest, because it's practically a form of peacocking. Men don't have a huge selection of accessories, so I suppose tattoos fill that void. It's also possible that the type of women who are attracted to tattoos are more aggressive and will initiate more conversations.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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