"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Friendzone and "best friends make best lovers"

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The friendzone is a state that is created when our behavior is not aligned with the outcome we want.

This video explains it very well

Once the first step—the choice—is successfully made, and you're not considered just a friend but his boyfriend, how should you behave correctly for a LTR, and how does that differ from your original behavior in the first instance?

For example, they also say "best friends make best lovers" https://www.quora.com/Why-do-our-friends-make-the-best-relationship-partners

also
stating that relationships fail because one partner doesnt satisfy the desire/urge to be understood.
I don't think my grandma was understood by my grandpa, but they managed to trive 70 years togheter.

Make light on this.
 
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"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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The friendzone is a state that is created when our behavior is not aligned with the outcome we want
Really?!!! I was under the impression that this was the portion of the field that's right next to the In Zone
 

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Some people get comfortable and would rather settle than start over. That's how relationships used to work far more than they do today.

That's when the two people essentially became roommates and the bedroom was deader than a doornail.
 

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I'm going with "familiarity breeds contempt"
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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The friendzone is a state that is created when our behavior is not aligned with the outcome we want.

This video explains it very well

Once the first step—the choice—is successfully made, and you're not considered just a friend but his boyfriend, how should you behave correctly for a LTR, and how does that differ from your original behavior in the first instance?

For example, they also say "best friends make best lovers" https://www.quora.com/Why-do-our-friends-make-the-best-relationship-partners

also
stating that relationships fail because one partner doesnt satisfy the desire/urge to be understood.
I don't think my grandma was understood by my grandpa, but they managed to trive 70 years togheter.

Make light on this.
Lol doesn't Italian Culture tell their men to "suck it up" when dealing with their haglike and nagging women? There's not much to understanding Italian Women, the veneration of the virgin mary by the catholic church drives them insane. Because they're not supposed to phuck, they channel their sexual energy into fashion, food, and drama.
 
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The friendzone strategy can take years to succeed and even then there’s no guarantee of success. If you want to pursue this approach I would invest absolutely bare minimal effort (e.g. texts/calls/catchups just a few times a year if that) and make sure you pursue other options. Don’t get oneitis with someone in the friendzone category, it’s a recipe for disappointment.
 

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Lol doesn't Italian Culture tell their men to "suck it up" when dealing with their haglike and nagging women? There's not much to understanding Italian Women, the veneration of the virgin mary by the catholic church drives them insane. Because they're not supposed to phuck, they channel their sexual energy into fashion, food, and drama.
Very true, for the most cases, but there are many LTR's in which a woman is dominated in every aspect.. and believe me.. she will still cheat on his husband.
Work on yourself. Female friends will eventually make a move if they see changes.
This happened to me, and other than IOI's and other things, I started to see that those women behaviour changed a bit. Just to cite an example, a old women friend would no more touch me or hug me like she have done before, and so, have a masculine behaviour, but instead now she's so feminine and submissive in my presence.
So, also women change their behaviour accordingly to our current person. The "Who you are right now".
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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I do agree with this sentiment.

The only caveat about being best friends is that best friends can have the most vicious fights - but you typically don’t fvck your male best friend and make up like it’s going to be Armageddon the following morning so that’s a plus.
 

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So, also women change their behaviour accordingly to our current person. The "Who you are right now".
Exactly. They live moment to moment. The friend zone is an illusion and even if it exists (which it only does in the man's mind), it is impermanent.
 

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Imo that's too much pressure on any woman, a woman will never be a male and will never give you the friendship a good male will.

There are men who make their women their best friends, mother, daughter, therapist, authority figure. No one wants that kind of pressure, that's why women detest needy men, cause they know those guys impose a lot of pressure on any woman.
Speaking in generals, I wouldnt diasagree with you. In particular, I was never looking for a "Best friend"; we just have so many common interests that It kind of happened naturally with the passing of time In the relationship
 

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The only caveat about being best friends is that best friends can have the most vicious fights - but you typically don’t fvck your male best friend and make up like it’s going to be Armageddon the following morning so that’s a plus.
Spend 6 months to a year in state pen
 

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I'd rather have a woman that feels the need to sex me up regularly so that I don't go looking for a replacement.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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The friendzone strategy can take years to succeed and even then there’s no guarantee of success. If you want to pursue this approach I would invest absolutely bare minimal effort (e.g. texts/calls/catchups just a few times a year if that) and make sure you pursue other options. Don’t get oneitis with someone in the friendzone category, it’s a recipe for disappointment.
The key to doing this right is to not give up other opportunities to do stuff with the "friend". I mean, if you were just going to sit at home and look at p0rn, then you might as well hang out with the "friend".
 

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The worst thing a man can do is enter and stay in the friendzone hoping to eventually get some p*ssy.

Moreover, the woman will always think you're seeking affection.

This will diminish your value.

Not worth it.
 

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The friendzone is a state that is created when our behavior is not aligned with the outcome we want.

This video explains it very well

Once the first step—the choice—is successfully made, and you're not considered just a friend but his boyfriend, how should you behave correctly for a LTR, and how does that differ from your original behavior in the first instance?

For example, they also say "best friends make best lovers" https://www.quora.com/Why-do-our-friends-make-the-best-relationship-partners

also
stating that relationships fail because one partner doesnt satisfy the desire/urge to be understood.
I don't think my grandma was understood by my grandpa, but they managed to trive 70 years togheter.

Make light on this.
Nope( with all due respect) .

I've learned that women readonly COMPLETELY different than men. A man won't hang with a woman unless there's a clear benefit to it. If he likes her then yes, he'll play the waiting game in hopes of catching her in a moment of weakness.

But everyday you don't " make that move " you'll lose her respect. For a woman attraction triumphs connection. If she's attracted to you she'll and has any kind of relationship with you she will automatically be your " friend ". But then again, sosuave.net is full of men who saw their " best friend" monkey branch and disappear once the attraction faded. A true friend doesn't need attraction like that ( even if it's a female friend).

I'd even say that sometimes the " male definition" of friendship isn't even necessary to sustain a ltr. You mentioned your grandparents. Plenty of long-time married couples hardly ever speak
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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