"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Friendzone and "best friends make best lovers"

Ricky

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I have mixed feelings about this topic.. I think one reason we don't understand the friend zone is that we sometimes see examples that counter it.

For the most part and Neil Strauss mentioned this in a book, i used to like to sleep with women as soon as possible. Obviously for the physical need but also to get a key relationship goalpost out of the way.. then there is no ambiguity that your interest in each other is physical.

I have however really enjoyed the chase and with my wife.. well i had to wait a little. I loved the challenge at the time. Now i wonder.. maybe it was a sign that we weren't as compatible in the end.. which is where i'm at now.. I don't think she has ever been the kind that someone gets into bed easily and her bodycount is low.. but the wait.. well when i had to wait it definitely had some level of her not being sure about me.

Although the women where the passion strikes hot and heavy quickly.. that can also flame out quickly. These are normally the ones that were physically attracted to me the first night but maybe neither of us have alot in common.

Another key thing i'm noticing now is that online sipping can work for some men.. the only reason i think this works is that the woman gets her emotional needs met from afar. Women actually like this while simultaneously they pine away thinking about a guy who isn't physically in their presence on a daily basis. Its causing a lot of problems for people now specifically with regards to infidelity etc.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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I have mixed feelings about this topic.. I think one reason we don't understand the friend zone is that we sometimes see examples that counter it.

For the most part and Neil Strauss mentioned this in a book, i used to like to sleep with women as soon as possible. Obviously for the physical need but also to get a key relationship goalpost out of the way.. then there is no ambiguity that your interest in each other is physical.

I have however really enjoyed the chase and with my wife.. well i had to wait a little. I loved the challenge at the time. Now i wonder.. maybe it was a sign that we weren't as compatible in the end.. which is where i'm at now.. I don't think she has ever been the kind that someone gets into bed easily and her bodycount is low.. but the wait.. well when i had to wait it definitely had some level of her not being sure about me.

Although the women where the passion strikes hot and heavy quickly.. that can also flame out quickly. These are normally the ones that were physically attracted to me the first night but maybe neither of us have alot in common.

Another key thing i'm noticing now is that online sipping can work for some men.. the only reason i think this works is that the woman gets her emotional needs met from afar. Women actually like this while simultaneously they pine away thinking about a guy who isn't physically in their presence on a daily basis. Its causing a lot of problems for people now specifically with regards to infidelity etc.
People confuse what the friendzone is more than anything.

The friendzone is when a woman would rather have sex with a dog than with you because it disgusts her to think of you in that way.

You are asexual to her. Not even an option. Maybe if you were the last man on earth she would cave in and have sex at some point after a while.

This is NOT what happened with your wife. You were NOT in the friendzone. You may have only been friends but that is NOT the same as being in the friendzone.
 
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