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Did Eastern European/Russian women let it all get to their heads?

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I've noticed that guys often hype up Eastern European countries for meeting a lot of sexy women and to be fair, my experience mainly comes from interacting with a lot of Eastern European women that settled into the US. One thing I have noticed is that whatever things people say are wrong with American women? Eastern European women who settle in the US take those toxic traits to another level.

Most I have known have been grade A clout chasers, rude AF, smug, arrogant, and practically every trait you can say is wrong with American women they take it to another level whenever they are visiting, living, or settling down here in the US.

I lived in NYC and my god, I cannot even talk to how awful the personalities of Russian and Slavic women there were. Trashy clout chasers who were disrespectful with a permanent resting b*tchface. In Miami, it's slightly better but I do notice how areas like South Beach have a ton of Russian women who are local, rude, unapproachable, and smug.

Now I am wondering, did Eastern European and Russian women let some stereotypes get to their heads because I have found them to have far worse personalities than any of the western women or just all women in general. Are we behind the times here when we say that these women are great?
 

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FWIW, the EE and Russian women who aren't huge clout chasers tend not to emigrate to the US.

I've noticed this about them too. Imo it's a combination of ambition and slightly outdated stereotypes. I simply avoid them, not worth it.
 

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I've noticed that guys often hype up Eastern European countries for meeting a lot of sexy women and to be fair, my experience mainly comes from interacting with a lot of Eastern European women that settled into the US. One thing I have noticed is that whatever things people say are wrong with American women? Eastern European women who settle in the US take those toxic traits to another level.

Most I have known have been grade A clout chasers, rude AF, smug, arrogant, and practically every trait you can say is wrong with American women they take it to another level whenever they are visiting, living, or settling down here in the US.

I lived in NYC and my god, I cannot even talk to how awful the personalities of Russian and Slavic women there were. Trashy clout chasers who were disrespectful with a permanent resting b*tchface. In Miami, it's slightly better but I do notice how areas like South Beach have a ton of Russian women who are local, rude, unapproachable, and smug.

Now I am wondering, did Eastern European and Russian women let some stereotypes get to their heads because I have found them to have far worse personalities than any of the western women or just all women in general. Are we behind the times here when we say that these women are great?
Maybe they are trying to fit in? People in NYC are well known for being d!cks.

I often joke the worst place to have a medical emergency would be on the streets of NYC because people would just walk over you and not bother calling for help.
 

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Maybe they are trying to fit in? People in NYC are well known for being d!cks.

I often joke the worst place to have a medical emergency would be on the streets of NYC because people would just walk over you and not bother calling for help.
They're bad in Arizona too.
 

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Maybe they are trying to fit in? People in NYC are well known for being d!cks.

I often joke the worst place to have a medical emergency would be on the streets of NYC because people would just walk over you and not bother calling for help.
Not really, I lived in NYC for years and I have to give credit where it is due, the American girls in NYC (especially if they were from small towns, the midwest, or the south) were far friendlier, approachable, and almost as hot as their European counterparts. If anything, one thing that threw me off about NYC is how the European women in general were icier, ruder, and lacking in any sort of personality compared to their American counterparts.
 

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Eastern European/Russian women in Eastern Europe or Russia are the really good ones. It's always aggravating to see an EE woman is the USA acting like a typical white biatch.

Many years ago, I had a disappointing date with a Ukrainian woman. She acted way too Western.

I recall a couple of interactions with US born Latinas than did not resemble the more feminine and more desirable Latinas of Latin American countries.

Eastern Europeans, Latinas, and East Asian women are the women that men go wild over as alternatives to awful Western women, mainly awful Western White women.
 

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Eastern European/Russian women in Eastern Europe or Russia are the really good ones. It's always aggravating to see an EE woman is the USA acting like a typical white biatch.

Many years ago, I had a disappointing date with a Ukrainian woman. She acted way too Western.

I recall a couple of interactions with US born Latinas than did not resemble the more feminine and more desirable Latinas of Latin American countries.

Eastern Europeans, Latinas, and East Asian women are the women that men go wild over as alternatives to awful Western women, mainly awful Western White women.
I am starting to doubt if even the ones in their home countries are that great anymore man. I have run into far too many in the US who were all of the toxic traits of American women times two. I haven't been for a long period of time yet but from what I can tell in the US, as Trump would say, they are not sending their best.
 

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Most Slavic chicks are well aware of their reputation and they use it to their advantage, they are extremely overrated.

The only reason Western men desire them is because they are white and slim, western women are overweight on average.

They also don't outnumber men unless you're into 70 year old babushkas.

I've spent time in Russia,Ukraine,Lithuania and Poland. In the 90s they may have been good but the golden goose has long since stopped laying eggs
 
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Most Slavic chicks are well aware of their reputation and they use it to their advantage, they are extremely overrated.

The only reason Western men desire them is because they are white and slim, western women are overweight on average.

They also don't outnumber men unless you're into 70 year old babushkas.
I am glad I am not the only one that noticed this. I have to say though, and it could be worth its own thread, but it seems like stuff is changing. Like I notice I meet so many fly English and American women these days who look out for themselves and have decent personalities but so many Slavic women are clout chasing Instagram queens. It is as if women were listening and decided to pick their game up.
 

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I am glad I am not the only one that noticed this. I have to say though, and it could be worth its own thread, but it seems like stuff is changing. Like I notice I meet so many fly English and American women these days who look out for themselves and have decent personalities but so many Slavic women are clout chasing Instagram queens. It is as if women were listening and decided to pick their game up.
The good Slavic girls only date men of their own race, Unless you speak Fluent Russian and are part of a good social circle there, you have no hope of getting access to them. The ones who learn English are social climbers and materialistic.

There is also Non Slavic girls in Russia like the Kavkaz (Chechan,Avar,Ossetian,Circassian and Lezgin), top tier women but it's impossible for an outsider to have access to the good ones unless you can convince her father/brothers.
 

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The good Slavic girls only date men of their own race, Unless you speak Fluent Russian and are part of a good social circle there, you have no hope of getting access to them. The ones who learn English are social climbers and materialistic.

There is also Non Slavic girls in Russia like the Kavkaz (Chechan,Avar,Ossetian,Circassian and Lezgin), top tier women but it's impossible for an outsider to have access to the good ones unless you can convince her father/brothers.
This makes sense to me. I think the ones that came to the US in general seem to be complete trash though. Like its better here in Miami but man you have not dealt with a b1tch until you have dealt with a Russian or Eastern European girl in NYC.
 

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In my experience with yugoslavic women, while in their countries, the hot ones tend to be very narcissistic, taking tons of selfies and glamour shots. But the ones that are less than a 9 look like they're pretty worthwhile.

I was also rather amazed by the amount of IOIs I got in croatia, WAY more than in other countries in europe.

That said they smoke like chimneys and most have bad teeth from not being able to afraid braces. The older 50+ women are missing a lot of teeth.

America tends to ruin everything. Eddie Murphy did his bush b!tch skit back in the 80s about not letting any woman he could bring back mingle with american women because they would ruin her. It's still spot on.
 

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This makes sense to me. I think the ones that came to the US in general seem to be complete trash though. Like its better here in Miami but man you have not dealt with a b1tch until you have dealt with a Russian or Eastern European girl in NYC.
It's not any better in Moscow, or even lower tier cities like Volgograd. You can sleep with some SlVts there pretty easily, especially if you are loaded. I don't think it's worth a trip there though.

Ukraine has been completely ruined by American and European Sex tourists, so has Czechia and Poland. Foreigners went from a cool novelty to desperate losers who spam approach women for sex.

These women expect men to pay for dates but they refuse to cook/clean. They want all the benefits of being 'traditional' with none of the responsibilities.
 

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I've noticed that guys often hype up Eastern European countries for meeting a lot of sexy women and to be fair, my experience mainly comes from interacting with a lot of Eastern European women that settled into the US. One thing I have noticed is that whatever things people say are wrong with American women? Eastern European women who settle in the US take those toxic traits to another level.

Most I have known have been grade A clout chasers, rude AF, smug, arrogant, and practically every trait you can say is wrong with American women they take it to another level whenever they are visiting, living, or settling down here in the US.

I lived in NYC and my god, I cannot even talk to how awful the personalities of Russian and Slavic women there were. Trashy clout chasers who were disrespectful with a permanent resting b*tchface. In Miami, it's slightly better but I do notice how areas like South Beach have a ton of Russian women who are local, rude, unapproachable, and smug.

Now I am wondering, did Eastern European and Russian women let some stereotypes get to their heads because I have found them to have far worse personalities than any of the western women or just all women in general. Are we behind the times here when we say that these women are great?
European women are sadly these days by default feminazi. They all believe they are stronk wahmen that need no man and that they are entitled to everything. So it is not limited to US.

The virus is called the internet and it spreads all the disease faster than ever before.
 

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European women don’t have those weird massive ceramic teeth they have in the states.
Weirds me the F out.
 

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Not really, I lived in NYC for years and I have to give credit where it is due, the American girls in NYC (especially if they were from small towns, the midwest, or the south) were far friendlier, approachable, and almost as hot as their European counterparts. If anything, one thing that threw me off about NYC is how the European women in general were icier, ruder, and lacking in any sort of personality compared to their American counterparts.
Your analysis is flawed as it misses one critical component. To those women, you are an outsider. If you were from the same background, I can guarantee that you would be treated in a completely different way. Imagine a Mexican dude moving to a small all-white American town. How well do you think he's going to fare with the local ladies? Will they be friendly and approachable or icy and rude? My bet is on the latter.

And to Eastern European women in NYC, you are the Mexican. Eastern European women who live in the West typically have a low opinion of the local men. They consider Western men to be effeminate, weak, poorly educated and dumb. When you approach them, you immediately have to overcome the "American idiot" stereotype.
 

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America tends to ruin everything. Eddie Murphy did his bush b!tch skit back in the 80s about not letting any woman he could bring back mingle with american women because they would ruin her. It's still spot on.
UMFOOFOO! That sexy naked zebra biitch with a plate in her lip, bone in her nose, and a fvcked up afro.
 

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Your analysis is flawed as it misses one critical component. To those women, you are an outsider. If you were from the same background, I can guarantee that you would be treated in a completely different way. Imagine a Mexican dude moving to a small all-white American town. How well do you think he's going to fare with the local ladies? Will they be friendly and approachable or icy and rude? My bet is on the latter.

And to Eastern European women in NYC, you are the Mexican. Eastern European women who live in the West typically have a low opinion of the local men. They consider Western men to be effeminate, weak, poorly educated and dumb. When you approach them, you immediately have to overcome the "American idiot" stereotype.
Something like this imo. One important aspect is the overall rough/ toughness of the countries .

When the men are tougher, the women are automatically more drawn towards alpha type of men. Most their father's uncles brother neighbors ect were rough men. Lotta war type like situations. If poor Africa is 3rd world and Germany is a 1st world country , then poor (east) Europe is 2nd.

It's a complete different upbringing. The definition of what a man is is completely different from the westernized world. That why those women have a different definition and expectation of a man .

I personally think they do indeed have beautiful women .
 

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Your analysis is flawed as it misses one critical component. To those women, you are an outsider. If you were from the same background, I can guarantee that you would be treated in a completely different way. Imagine a Mexican dude moving to a small all-white American town. How well do you think he's going to fare with the local ladies? Will they be friendly and approachable or icy and rude? My bet is on the latter.

And to Eastern European women in NYC, you are the Mexican. Eastern European women who live in the West typically have a low opinion of the local men. They consider Western men to be effeminate, weak, poorly educated and dumb. When you approach them, you immediately have to overcome the "American idiot" stereotype.
To your Mexican guy comment, tbh, I'd say he'd be welcomed if he was cool and not a stereotype. In fact, I have noticed small town white girls are quite open minded compared to liberal white girls from big cities that talk the whole tolerance game but only hang with others like them.

Now to your point, actually a lot of local guys from those regions feel the same way about their women that we do. It is common for all men to complain about their women. For all of the talk of EE women wanting tough men and seeing western men as idiots, well jeez, I am wondering why they come to our countries, worship our entertainment, and then someone feel like they are above us despite them flooding our countries? Perhaps stay in EE if you cannot handle western men?
 

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It's not any better in Moscow, or even lower tier cities like Volgograd. You can sleep with some SlVts there pretty easily, especially if you are loaded. I don't think it's worth a trip there though.

Ukraine has been completely ruined by American and European Sex tourists, so has Czechia and Poland. Foreigners went from a cool novelty to desperate losers who spam approach women for sex.

These women expect men to pay for dates but they refuse to cook/clean. They want all the benefits of being 'traditional' with none of the responsibilities.
Funny you mention Ukraine, hands down the worst women in all of EE outside of the Balkans. All of them act disconnected and have no personality to them. Maybe that's why I feel no emotions towards the crisis either ways. Total rotten leeches and only good for sex but nothing else. If Ukrainian women cannot be escorts, they should not even bother with anything period.
 
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