"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Cleared it with the mods! A thread I’ve wanted to do for years. Post your real life picture let the community help fix your looks!(completely optiona)

ImTheDoubleGreatest!

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@ImTheDoubleGreatest! Honestly I don't see much of a difference. Is it that your face looks rounder in your bad pictures? I'm unsure if it's the lighting or an actual difference in facial features?
Yeah it’s the roundedness. Sometimes my face is nice and angular, other times it’s swollen/enflamed and I look like a puffed up chew toy.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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@zekko when you post, I picture a young Mr Rogers for some reason.
I'd have to say I'm more muscular than Mr. Rogers, but he swam every day so I'm sure he had lower body fat. But I bring this up to say that I will never be 1/100 the human being that Mr. Rogers was, and I'm sure I'm being way too kind to myself there.

I'm sure I've seen pictures of you before. I never would have guessed you at 6'1" from your pictures. You're obviously in good shape, but I bet you must be more formidable looking in person, since you're 6'1".
 

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You've said ALL of us look good. You talk to us just like your girls!
I’m confused, I have honestly not seen a ugly guy post yet. The opposite of what I would expect from a pick up forum
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These last ones were in August, but yeah I think these are my best. Still not sure if they’re *actually* good lol but whatever
the better looking pictures just have better lighting your a nice looking kid, buzz your hair a little shorter.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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I'd have to say I'm more muscular than Mr. Rogers, but he swam every day so I'm sure he had lower body fat. But I bring this up to say that I will never be 1/100 the human being that Mr. Rogers was, and I'm sure I'm being way too kind to myself there.

I'm sure I've seen pictures of you before. I never would have guessed you at 6'1" from your pictures. You're obviously in good shape, but I bet you must be more formidable looking in person, since you're 6'1".
Yup I’m 6’1 I’m definitely a big bear of a guy
 

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the better looking pictures just have better lighting your a nice looking kid, buzz your hair a little shorter
Lol nah I don’t think it’s just lighting my guy. And yeah, I would buzz it shorter but I got a bald spot on the right side of my head that I don’t want people to see lol (my sister ripped the hair out when I was 4 when we go into a fight lol)
 

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Nice abs bro, go on a 15 lb bulk perhaps?
I’m on a slow & steady type thing right now. One thing I notice is that when people do the whole bulking and cutting thing, most tend to not be able to maintain low bf% so I’m just trying to build slowly. Still gained around 5-7 lbs since I took this pic though, hopefully will improve further.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Aight **** it, it’s time to either put up or shut up. But Imma prolly ask the mods to delete this **** later on cuz I still want to be anon.

Just gonna warn y’all ahead of time that I can look ugly or goodlooking depending. Here’s the ugly ones first, I just took them right now lol: View attachment 3519 View attachment 3520
Depends on a lot of factors with these new high tech phones. Like I have Note 10 Plus. On regular mode, non beauty it saturates too much like makes my skin too dark and my freckles look way dark compared to IRL. Too sharp. Not sure how the new iPhones are.
 

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Yeah it’s the roundedness. Sometimes my face is nice and angular, other times it’s swollen/enflamed and I look like a puffed up chew toy.
I think you're being a bit more critical towards yourself than what everyone else are. The difference is so subtle that I'm not the only one to think it was just the lighting. I guess you notice it more easily since you probably see your face in a mirror every day and we don't, lol.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Not you. I'm talking about the guys in their twenties who fear they are going to be old and shriveled up by age 35.
That's a relief. The gym really does keep you young.

I know a guy in his mid 40s that's tagging a 23 year old who's as hot as any college girl really. It never ends!

I agree with @DEEZEDBRAH lol. Top form SMV, 18-23 please
 

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I’ve always thought it would be interesting to poll the membership to see how people imagine the more active members look. For example, I can’t help but imagine that @zekko looks a little like Captain Kirk because of his iconic avatar. Of course with each member we probably have a vague picture of what each individual looks like.

I don’t want to hijack this thread so let’s not do that here. Down the road I might start one to see if anyone is interested in guessing what others look like, to which they can respond.

I’m very glad to see the positive tone of this thread. Great idea, @cola.

We now return you to your regular programming.....
 

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im thinking of switching to a meat and green only diet, with 1 cheat meal a week(refeed) what do you think the results would be?
You need *some* carbs or you'll bonk big time. Plus, eating too few carbs over time leads to a build up of ketones in your body which are toxic. The keto diet is great for short term weight loss but it's unsustainable long term. The avg diet is 200-300 carbs per day. My program for the past two years has been 100g/day. It's enough to keep up my energy but not more than I need.
 
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"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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