CJs cold approach journal

[Atom Smasher]

Do you remember what I told you in another thread, that you come off as a beggar?
Your behavior here bears that out. Why were you seeking her approval instead of flipping the script and getting her to want to impress you?
I hope that someday it will click for you.

 

[Cheeky_James]

You asked her for feedback? Cringe.

And why would that be Cringe , RetardedAutist?

 

[Cheeky_James]

Sounds like you need to enjoy the process and stop being in such a rush. My interpretation.

yeah.
I defs need to ask the ch1ck what she’s open to /wants primarily first - then calibrate my approach to that on the date.
I was unsure if this ch1ck wanted a NSA hookup or more than that. I didn’t have time to discuss w her in the chat before we bounced to a date .
So I just ran that game but it was a mismatch.

Some chicks are straightforward.. don’t mind my escalation and not bothered re connection much cos they just want a few laughs and to get down to biz that night. (Hookups)

important to clarify that beforehand !!

 

[condonrekema]

Does anyone here know of any guides or resources specifically about day game? I can usually do well at a salsa or bachata place at night or when going out with friends, but I don't really like staying out late because of my beauty sleep and fitness. So, most of the women I’ve met lately have been through Hinge or work-related events, which isn’t ideal. Also, since I’m new in town, I don't have any friends to go sarging with.

 

[Cheeky_James]

Do you remember what I told you in another thread, that you come off as a beggar?
Your behavior here bears that out. Why were you seeking her approval instead of flipping the script and getting her to want to impress you?
I hope that someday it will click for you.

dude , there are different scenarios.
You are missing some context.
That flipping of the script is done early on the app chat anyway, not on the date.
And if a chick indicates a strong desire for me , there is no need to do the “impress me “ thing.
That overcomplicates and fvcks fhings up.
If the situ is an NSA hookup.. no need to do that.

@condonrekema
Day game is quite tough. I only do that at daytime social events . Festivals etc where there is a party atmosphere , alcohol and dancing etc tbh. Maybe bookstores and cafes also are good locations to seduce other types of women sometimes too ..

I don’t know of any good dedicated DayGame guides tho tbh. Never come across one.

well, in saying that Strauss’ book had some DayGame scenarios. That’s pretty solid.

 

[Cheeky_James]

Do you remember what I told you in another thread, that you come off as a beggar?
Your behavior here bears that out. Why were you seeking her approval instead of flipping the script and getting her to want to impress you?
I hope that someday it will click for you.

.
I’m not sure where you think I was seeking her approval??? Or pvssy begging? Wtf …pls point it out what I did .. giving her a once over with my eyes ? Lol
That’s a bit of a jump to pvssy begging imo.

but let’s say you’re right. Somehow..
so how do YOU do that personally.
the flipping of the script.

give me some lines and material. Or some screenshots of text messages ideally.

Happy to test it out.

 

[condonrekema]

dude , there are different scenarios.
You are missing some context.
That flipping of the script is done early on the app chat anyway, not on the date.
And if a chick indicates a strong desire for me , there is no need to do the “impress me “ thing.
That overcomplicates and fvcks fhings up.
If the situ is an NSA hookup.. no need to do that.

@condonrekema
Day game is quite tough. I only do that at daytime social events . Festivals etc where there is a party atmosphere , alcohol and dancing etc tbh. Maybe bookstores and cafes also are good locations to seduce other types of women sometimes too ..

I don’t know of any good dedicated DayGame guides tho tbh. Never come across one.

well, in saying that Strauss’ book had some DayGame scenarios. That’s pretty solid.

Thank you, sir.
I've been reflecting about that and considering the suggestion you made about day events, made me reflect that maybe just maybe I've been just too lazy. Almost anywhere you can find something to-do on a Sunday or Saturday with a bunch of strangers.
I appreciate the words of wisdom.

 

[Rainman4707]

A guy came in for an appointment today in a government office. He was quite talkative in which is a quiet environment (whether it was nerves that was making him chatty, i dont know) i was on the door. He was chatting to me a bit, then a female customer came in, so i had to go and see her, so he sat down, the only free chair left was next to him and i kind of pointed her in that direction. Anyway, it was all quiet, then he started chatting to her telling her about himself, then asking about her, her background etc. Quite a ballsy move from him i think, considering the environment. And credit to him, he got the number.

Just thought i'd add this to your thread, seen as though it's CA.

 

[Rainman4707]

@Cheeky_James which city are you in?

 

[Rainman4707]

Review of last night and observations ;

pretty busy “cool” bar with a venue next door and a big name DJ playing so lots of hot ladies and cool guys floating around. I have not been out trying nightgame in quite a while

I was moving between the bar (inside) and the verandah outaide on the street next to the venue and the queue outaide there. Street was busy

general observations
- bar staff were 2 trendy dressed tall gay dudes and 2 hipster chicks.
- lots of people and lots of cliques of 3-4 mixed ppl at tables.
- 2 hot chicks 1 Asian 1 white I sat next to but they were deep in convo about some dating /man drama. I really liked the Asian and she observed me possibly IOI/liked me but I did not open cos they was busy furiously talking. They left soon after. Meh.

- tried talking to some older unattractive chick just for conversation but she was drunk or stoned and didn’t give me much and turned away.
- chicks inside bar in pairs but very young for me, too young. Could see them looking at me judging as I was solo until 10:30pm

- tons of hot chicks walking past bar and lining up to venue , but either with hot dudes or in mixed cliques with hot dudes.

- almost every hot chick was usually with a hot tall Chad dude …or 2 or 3 such dudes in a clique. Either tall or big framed well dressed dudes.

- the bathroom of the bar I nicknamed “the white room” as I suspect everyone doing Coke in the toilet stalls . Multiple voices and ppl coming in /out of toilets.

- lots of folks on drugs coming in/out of venue.
- general druggy atmosphere and venue crowd mostly on drugs
- someone smoking a joint in the verandah crowd one section stank of weed

- opened a chick with a 9/10 face but a butter body on a smoke break from the gig. She’d had a bit of coke, and pretty chatty
Could have possibly got her number but figured I’d see her later maybe. I left before gig was over, plus she was sizeable, so no .

- did continually notice that the cliques all had hot dudes present and the “cliquey” cold vibe around the groups.

- took a pic of the DJ he was cool.
- tried to sit next to a chick in a corner on one end who was talking to another high but attractive chick on a smoke break , corner chick must have sussed out my plan and quickly put her feet up on the chair between us and ****blocked me from getting close to talk. Meh

- my friend arrived finally around 10:30/10:45

- 2 hot bodied very b1tchy looking chicks were standing across 2 sets of tables from us , we scoped them out and watched a fat Indian PUA type guy open and talk to them.
I had been watching this guy moving around and opening a few sets during the evening, and getting nowhere . He was chubby short and very dark skinned. His smv would be low I judged.

I will continue with details about these 2 chicks and the possible approach of them.

I remember i would go out for a few beers and there was a big group of lads would ignore me - i hate cliques! Where as if i was ever out in a big group and i there was aguy in the bar alaone, i would have a bit craic with him. Some lads are up their own arses, vain as f***. Think they are better than other people. Like all these guys on Geordie shore and love island where everyone has to peacok and be the centre of attention.

 

[Cheeky_James]

I remember i would go out for a few beers and there was a big group of lads would ignore me - i hate cliques! Where as if i was ever out in a big group and i there was aguy in the bar alaone, i would have a bit craic with him. Some lads are up their own arses, vain as f***. Think they are better than other people. Like all these guys on Geordie shore and love island where everyone has to peacok and be the centre of attention.

totally.
This is the vibe usually. cliques and AMOGs /AMOGing. Dudes ain’t friendly .. in my country anyway.

 

[Cheeky_James]

UPDATE.

Well boyos.
I have analysed the Chad approach to app texting and tweaked my chat sequence to match the Chad type text game on Hinge.

Ie
quick fluif talk -> early screening for level of interest -> check for what the chick is open to -> availability & logistics -> number close

Result? Instant improvement in efficiency

I have 2 date options tonite and hopefully a close in the making now. Plus another chick that is likely up for casual .

THATS A BINGO!

happy days

End of update.

 

[Cheeky_James]

Update.

So I’ve just been on a date and it’s 1:44am my time now.

it’s been a busy afternoon on the apps today, with a few options that were keen .

firstly I had a date set up with a blondie for 9:30pm..

BUT ..then in the later afternoon started getting texts from another better looking and fitter redhead chick. This app chat escalated and she hinted she may be possibly up for me coming straight to her place.

so I had the old players dilemma of which horse to put the bet on.

She then shortly later told me she’d been catfished lately . And had a scary situation with some dude locking her in his house. So was stalling…

The clock was ticking tho..
What to do?

I told her let’s do a FaceTime first . And at 7pm we did and it went well , she switched the Netflix and chill to meeting for a drink near her place in the city.
(****!)

but she was hotter so I agreed and afterwards texted blondie an excuse and rain checked .

Met the redhead .. she’s very sexy indeed and we had a 4.5 hour date and went to 2 bars. The second being an awesome speakeasy with a live band.

She’s a great dancer and super sexy B.

I had been escalating touch after an hour or so and then with the dancing.. and finally was getting very handsy dancing w her.

We had 2 rounds of some very strong ****tails.

Things progressing nicely,, until the last hour.. and when I made some bigger moves,,when she told me she has some issues with intimacy on the first date, she doesn’t do that and sex is not gonna happen tonite etc (****!!!!)

We made out a lot and I got my hands on her super firm gym toned body and ass in the bar and on the walk home.

We parted with a big pash.. but I’m annoyed I didn’t push it more on the goodbye, meh, I may have gotten up to the apartment, I did say something to that effect towards the end of our walk but she c*ckblocked me. So maybe not.

It was a funny switch of a night from a possible straight to the apartment situ for food and wine over to a to drinks date bar hopping and then at the end ‘I have intimacy issues’

chicks mang…

she did mention she likes to do coke and had been powering her nose during the night on the bathroom breaks . And was a little wired and wide eyed at the nights end. so that would have been a bit of a thing also.

So I’m a bit pissed I did not get in tonight, but will see if she’s keen for a date 2 anyways. She’s worth working on.

she’s pretty fine this one.., not sure if I can afford her… but would like to get in there for sure x

END OF UPDATE

 

[Cheeky_James]

Update!!!

fvcking b1tch lol.
She just sent me a Dear John text

“On reflection I don’t think we will be romantic to be honest
You’re lovely but I didn’t feel the vibe Im after. Would still be keen to be friends if you are x”

LOL.

I countered her message and told her I’m still in the area if she wants a bang.

Wtf.

i knew she was just telling me stories at the end of the date .. what a crock.

I should have pushed for the apartment drop in va the drinks !. Feelin like a sucker now.

fvcking lesson learned.

search and destroy no mercy from now on!!!

 

[Clockwerk50]

Disregarding your opinion about looks, whether these women are good-looking or not, and your behaviour when you meet them for the first time, you do something right, and you seem to be able to get women off the apps with ease.

I hope I don’t jinx it. Good stuff!

 

[Cheeky_James]

Disregarding your opinion about looks, whether these women are good-looking or not, and your behaviour when you meet them for the first time, you do something right, and you seem to be able to get women off the apps with ease.

I hope I don’t jinx it. Good stuff!

thanks man.
Fyi

I am good looking .
That’s the reason I am able to get women off the apps with ease .

that an my bio reads like I have a sense of humour .It’s all funny ‘chickie ‘ fluff stuff on my bio. with chick lingo thrown in.

Those 2 are the combo.

sense of humour is massive btw.
(and no one mentioned on my other thread re oersonality afaics lol)

I ask all the chicks early in chat why they swiped right on my profile - and the answer is always those 2 things and usually my ethnicity also (UK background) and that I have an accent.

so Good Looking + Funny + Foreign.

Edit
I was thinking of posting screenshots of this to back up my debates here . But it would be too brutal tbh.

that website Plinco mentioned a while back ‘Fotor’ rated my face pic a 77/100 . So I guess I’m HTN or ‘ChadLite’ tier.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

UPDATE.

Well boyos.
I have analysed the Chad approach to app texting and tweaked my chat sequence to match the Chad type text game on Hinge.

Ie
quick fluif talk -> early screening for level of interest -> check for what the chick is open to -> availability & logistics -> number close

Result? Instant improvement in efficiency

I have 2 date options tonite and hopefully a close in the making now. Plus another chick that is likely up for casual .

THATS A BINGO!

happy days

End of update.

That's pretty much how I use to kill it on apps. I had a cookie cutter approach essentially where I would be getting 4-5 numbers or more a day. Basically 3-4 messages, get the number and set up the date.

Rinse and repeat until I filled the pipeline quota

 

[Cheeky_James]

That's pretty much how I use to kill it on apps. I had a cookie cutter approach essentially where I would be getting 4-5 numbers or more a day. Basically 3-4 messages, get the number and set up the date.

Rinse and repeat until I filled the pipeline quota

Cool it’s the best practice for sure

how many dates were progressing on to an SNL or date 2 for you back then?

So far I’ve had 6 dates .
And 4 not progressing/Dear John message after .
3 make outs
1 BJ
0 lays .

Meh.

Edit;
With this one last night (redhead) and 2 others cause was Status-related I think.

-not enough money
-doesn’t do party drugs .

afaics…

the hotter ones want lifestyle /drugs also in the mix imo/ime.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Cool it’s the best practice for sure

how many dates were progressing on to an SNL or date 2 for you back then?

So far I’ve had 6 dates .
And 4 not progressing/Dear John message after .
3 make outs
1 BJ
0 lays .

Meh.

Edit;
With this one last night (redhead) and 2 others cause was Status-related I think.

-not enough money
-doesn’t do party drugs .

afaics…

the hotter ones want lifestyle /drugs also in the mix imo/ime.

SNL wasn't really my style. Out of the 75 or so women I banged off OLD over an 8 year period (however this includes about half the time when I was in an LTR with 3 different women for 1-1.5 years each where I exclusively only was banging them after a few months), I probably had 5-6 SNL's, 10 2nd date lays and then 80% of them were 3rd date lays where I would invite them over to cook dinner with me.

Also had 10 or so more that weren't full bangs but ranged from BJs, handjobs and some form of nakedness.

Essentially in the times I wasn't exclusive I would have 3-4 plates(once I had 7-8 and that was exhausting and had to let some go) I would rotate between seeing every 7-10 days. Still would maintain women in different stages of the pipeline on OLD so that way when one dropped or went low energy they were replaced by a new one.

I think the thing that helped the most was that I was exceptional at getting numbers and then getting them to actually meet in person. My flake rate was exceptionally low...maybe 1 out of every 20, if not lower.

 

[Cheeky_James]

SNL wasn't really my style. Out of the 75 or so women I banged off OLD over an 8 year period (however this includes about half the time when I was in an LTR with 3 different women for 1-1.5 years each where I exclusively only was banging them after a few months), I probably had 5-6 SNL's, 10 2nd date lays and then 80% of them were 3rd date lays where I would invite them over to cook dinner with me.

Also had 10 or so more that weren't full bangs but ranged from BJs, handjobs and some form of nakedness.

Essentially in the times I wasn't exclusive I would have 3-4 plates(once I had 7-8 and that was exhausting and had to let some go) I would rotate between seeing every 7-10 days. Still would maintain women in different stages of the pipeline on OLD so that way when one dropped or went low energy they were replaced by a new one.

I think the thing that helped the most was that I was exceptional at getting numbers and then getting them to actually meet in person. My flake rate was exceptionally low...maybe 1 out of every 20, if not lower.

That’s some good results right there ! Good work.

! but how many girls did you go on dates with in total to get the 75 bangs is what I meant,

like what was the conversion rate from # total dates

Like 1 date in 3/4/5 went somewhere and ended up converting to sex down the track..