"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Are women with kids worth fvcking?

FlexpertHamilton

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Not dating, but only fwb type of thing at most. I've never banged a woman with kids; am I missing out? Are they an easier and better lay or more work than they're worth?
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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If you can do it with minimal effort and keep them plate status only, do it. That's way easier said than done. It's a solid policy to stick with childless women only.
 

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What I always liked about single moms is there are times when they are wrapped up in their kids and they stay out of my hair. Their attention was focused somewhere other than me. When their ex had their kids then they were always down for spending lots of quality time. They could relax and let loose. Always made for a good time.

If you are needy, dependent, and not flexible then you will be frustrated. Things pop up, plans change, their kids are priority #1. It won't be you I promise.

I've always found single moms to have more traits that are beneficial to a guy (nurturing, thoughtful, pleasing, ability to cook) than women with no kids and don't want kids. Some of the women I've dated that didn't have kids and didn't want kids tend to be a little more career focused, more selfish, not as nurturing, more independent, could not cook.

Those same traits that moms have that make them good at taking care of kids also make them good at taking care of their man.

Just don't get too involved where you have to help raise their kids.
 
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"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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What Howiestern said. And if the kids are there fine, or if they come over fine, but it's important that they are
Genuinely respectful. If they act like you're the reason mom broke up with dad. Game over immediately. Lots of
Kids act like the Devil because you're a boyfriend. Not a chance!
 

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If you have no kids of your own, or if they’ve flown the coop then no. If you have custody of children, then yes. They tend to be quite grateful and down for anything. Make sure you’re wrapping it.
 
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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What I always liked about single moms is there are times when they are wrapped up in their kids and they stay out of my hair. Their attention was focused somewhere other than me. When their ex had their kids then they were always down for spending lots of quality time. They could relax and let loose. Always made for a good time.

If you are needy, dependent, and not flexible then you will be frustrated. Things pop up, plans change, their kids are priority #1. It won't be you I promise.

I've always found single moms to have more traits that are beneficial to a guy (nurturing, thoughtful, pleasing, ability to cook) than women with no kids and don't want kids. Some of the women I've dated that didn't have kids and didn't want kids tend to be a little more career focused, more selfish, not as nurturing, more independent, could not cook.

Those same traits that moms have that make them good at taking care of kids also make them good at taking care of their man.

Just don't get too involved where you have to help raise their kids.
Yes this all the way. Maintain frame with the raramount rule that you are not a cuck who's going to raise her children. Always keep in mind that single moms are often looking for a beta to help raise their kids and provide resources. You can have a relationship, yes, but with very clear hard boundaries.
 

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Not dating, but only fwb type of thing at most. I've never banged a woman with kids; am I missing out? Are they an easier and better lay or more work than they're worth?
I dont discriminate. I try not to lose opportunities. Your questions:
1) are you missing out? Yes, but it is nothing from heaven.
2)Are they an easier and better lay or more work than they're worth? Yes and No, and No. I speak from my experience. They are easier to lay, but I am not sure about better. Better than who? No, they are not more work than they are worth. If so, she needs to go the fk off.
Also, if you want to commit, you will never be first in priority, you will never replace the father, and you can never discipline the children.
 

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Single mothers know that their SMV is lower than that of a woman with no kids, if they're not delusional then they're easier.

Are you missing out on anything? No not really. If a baby has been pushed out, she's not going to be as tight as a woman who hasn't had kids.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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If a baby has been pushed out, she's not going to be as tight as a woman who hasn't had kids.
This is not what he asked. He asked about investment and worth.
Anyway, this is not always the case,but it is a possible condition, and not always probable, but not unlikely either. It depends mainly on how long ago she gave birth. However, age could be a factor and some times not.
The Kama Sutra's three sizes of male and female genitalia:
Male Kama Sutra Sizes:
  • Hare (Small)
  • Bull (Medium)
  • Horse (Large)
Female Kama Sutra Sizes:
  • Deer (Small)
  • Mare (Medium)
  • Elephant (Large)
 

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Women with kids are by far the easiest to sleep with. They're agreeable and are not always looking for a provider. Some are just looking to get laid.
 

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What I always liked about single moms is there are times when they are wrapped up in their kids and they stay out of my hair. Their attention was focused somewhere other than me. When their ex had their kids then they were always down for spending lots of quality time. They could relax and let loose. Always made for a good time.

If you are needy, dependent, and not flexible then you will be frustrated. Things pop up, plans change, their kids are priority #1. It won't be you I promise.

I've always found single moms to have more traits that are beneficial to a guy (nurturing, thoughtful, pleasing, ability to cook) than women with no kids and don't want kids. Some of the women I've dated that didn't have kids and didn't want kids tend to be a little more career focused, more selfish, not as nurturing, more independent, could not cook.
The childless man has a dilemma here.

The nurturing, thougtful, pleasing, and able to cook attributes are desirable girlfriend attributes. However, the presence of a child is not. Therefore, the childless man often prefers the option of the childless woman, who has more free time but then the downsides of careerism and less nurturing characteristics.

I think the childless man is better off with the childless woman despite her lack of nurturing characteristics.
 

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The childless man has a dilemma here.

The nurturing, thougtful, pleasing, and able to cook attributes are desirable girlfriend attributes. However, the presence of a child is not. Therefore, the childless man often prefers the option of the childless woman, who has more free time but then the downsides of careerism and less nurturing characteristics.

I think the childless man is better off with the childless woman despite her lack of nurturing characteristics.
I'm exactly that. Some days I question what I have.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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