"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Are women with kids worth fvcking?

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Not dating, but only fwb type of thing at most. I've never banged a woman with kids; am I missing out? Are they an easier and better lay or more work than they're worth?
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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If you can do it with minimal effort and keep them plate status only, do it. That's way easier said than done. It's a solid policy to stick with childless women only.
 

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What I always liked about single moms is there are times when they are wrapped up in their kids and they stay out of my hair. Their attention was focused somewhere other than me. When their ex had their kids then they were always down for spending lots of quality time. They could relax and let loose. Always made for a good time.

If you are needy, dependent, and not flexible then you will be frustrated. Things pop up, plans change, their kids are priority #1. It won't be you I promise.

I've always found single moms to have more traits that are beneficial to a guy (nurturing, thoughtful, pleasing, ability to cook) than women with no kids and don't want kids. Some of the women I've dated that didn't have kids and didn't want kids tend to be a little more career focused, more selfish, not as nurturing, more independent, could not cook.

Those same traits that moms have that make them good at taking care of kids also make them good at taking care of their man.

Just don't get too involved where you have to help raise their kids.
 
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"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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What Howiestern said. And if the kids are there fine, or if they come over fine, but it's important that they are
Genuinely respectful. If they act like you're the reason mom broke up with dad. Game over immediately. Lots of
Kids act like the Devil because you're a boyfriend. Not a chance!
 

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If you have no kids of your own, or if they’ve flown the coop then no. If you have custody of children, then yes. They tend to be quite grateful and down for anything. Make sure you’re wrapping it.
 
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"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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What I always liked about single moms is there are times when they are wrapped up in their kids and they stay out of my hair. Their attention was focused somewhere other than me. When their ex had their kids then they were always down for spending lots of quality time. They could relax and let loose. Always made for a good time.

If you are needy, dependent, and not flexible then you will be frustrated. Things pop up, plans change, their kids are priority #1. It won't be you I promise.

I've always found single moms to have more traits that are beneficial to a guy (nurturing, thoughtful, pleasing, ability to cook) than women with no kids and don't want kids. Some of the women I've dated that didn't have kids and didn't want kids tend to be a little more career focused, more selfish, not as nurturing, more independent, could not cook.

Those same traits that moms have that make them good at taking care of kids also make them good at taking care of their man.

Just don't get too involved where you have to help raise their kids.
Yes this all the way. Maintain frame with the raramount rule that you are not a cuck who's going to raise her children. Always keep in mind that single moms are often looking for a beta to help raise their kids and provide resources. You can have a relationship, yes, but with very clear hard boundaries.
 

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Not dating, but only fwb type of thing at most. I've never banged a woman with kids; am I missing out? Are they an easier and better lay or more work than they're worth?
I dont discriminate. I try not to lose opportunities. Your questions:
1) are you missing out? Yes, but it is nothing from heaven.
2)Are they an easier and better lay or more work than they're worth? Yes and No, and No. I speak from my experience. They are easier to lay, but I am not sure about better. Better than who? No, they are not more work than they are worth. If so, she needs to go the fk off.
Also, if you want to commit, you will never be first in priority, you will never replace the father, and you can never discipline the children.
 

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Single mothers know that their SMV is lower than that of a woman with no kids, if they're not delusional then they're easier.

Are you missing out on anything? No not really. If a baby has been pushed out, she's not going to be as tight as a woman who hasn't had kids.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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If a baby has been pushed out, she's not going to be as tight as a woman who hasn't had kids.
This is not what he asked. He asked about investment and worth.
Anyway, this is not always the case,but it is a possible condition, and not always probable, but not unlikely either. It depends mainly on how long ago she gave birth. However, age could be a factor and some times not.
The Kama Sutra's three sizes of male and female genitalia:
Male Kama Sutra Sizes:
  • Hare (Small)
  • Bull (Medium)
  • Horse (Large)
Female Kama Sutra Sizes:
  • Deer (Small)
  • Mare (Medium)
  • Elephant (Large)
 

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Women with kids are by far the easiest to sleep with. They're agreeable and are not always looking for a provider. Some are just looking to get laid.
 

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What I always liked about single moms is there are times when they are wrapped up in their kids and they stay out of my hair. Their attention was focused somewhere other than me. When their ex had their kids then they were always down for spending lots of quality time. They could relax and let loose. Always made for a good time.

If you are needy, dependent, and not flexible then you will be frustrated. Things pop up, plans change, their kids are priority #1. It won't be you I promise.

I've always found single moms to have more traits that are beneficial to a guy (nurturing, thoughtful, pleasing, ability to cook) than women with no kids and don't want kids. Some of the women I've dated that didn't have kids and didn't want kids tend to be a little more career focused, more selfish, not as nurturing, more independent, could not cook.
The childless man has a dilemma here.

The nurturing, thougtful, pleasing, and able to cook attributes are desirable girlfriend attributes. However, the presence of a child is not. Therefore, the childless man often prefers the option of the childless woman, who has more free time but then the downsides of careerism and less nurturing characteristics.

I think the childless man is better off with the childless woman despite her lack of nurturing characteristics.
 

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The childless man has a dilemma here.

The nurturing, thougtful, pleasing, and able to cook attributes are desirable girlfriend attributes. However, the presence of a child is not. Therefore, the childless man often prefers the option of the childless woman, who has more free time but then the downsides of careerism and less nurturing characteristics.

I think the childless man is better off with the childless woman despite her lack of nurturing characteristics.
I'm exactly that. Some days I question what I have.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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