MatureDJ
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I'm 5'5", powerlifter frame; don't ask.I would like to hear from other 5ft7 5ft8 5ft9 guys, how are you doing with the ladies?
Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.
I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.
Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules. Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.
I'm 5'5", powerlifter frame; don't ask.I would like to hear from other 5ft7 5ft8 5ft9 guys, how are you doing with the ladies?
If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.
Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.
This will quickly drive all women away from you.
And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.
Definitely. That's why I actually get irritated at some of the responses people by reflex give. They make it sound like had you done something a little different (less calling, texting etc...) you would have gotten the girl. More often than not it just boils down to attraction you have no control over. That being said I do believe you should always try and be the best version of yourself.It's always the most interesting when people who were super into 'game' and seduction discover the truth.
It's more interesting than people who never believed in game at all in the first place, and more interesting than people who are new and still believe that game = mind control and haven't been through the 'trials and tribulations' as you say lol.
I was also 100% game for a while. Even though I knew instinctively that looks were super important (since I simply couldn't ignore what i'd seen with my own eyes with my clearly good looking friends) I really wanted to give it a chance. I was willing too accept that I was wrong and that girls don't care about looks and everything else that PUA books at the time promoted. I wasn't like these whiny new guys you see nowadays who never approach because they don't look like a young DiCaprio and who believe game is 100% irrelevant. No, I really wanted to be believe. And I read a lot and watched a lot and put all kinds of **** into practice in the field. But at some point, it becomes clear how this game is played. I'm at the point where my mind simply can't be changed about any of my beliefs about this stuff.
I love game and I think it matters, but it's not as it's sold. It makes you a more efficient closer. The all important attraction is the most important bit. A pre-requisite. And it doesn't really h ave anything to do with game lol
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I have dated some very hot women who were crazy about me and constantly told me how good looking they thought I was while some average women didn't give me the time of day...it is crazy how some people can view you as being hot while others don't see it at all.Definitely. That's why I actually get irritated at some of the responses people by reflex give. They make it sound like had you done something a little different (less calling, texting etc...) you would have gotten the girl. More often than not it just boils down to attraction you have no control over. That being said I do believe you should always try and be the best version of yourself.
The silver lining (depending on how you want to look at it lol) I have found is that women can have different types of people they feel this attraction towards. So even though you are objectively more attractive then say a subpar woman... she may not be attracted to you at all. At the same time a better looking girl might be but it will depend on each girl individually regardless of their objective looks.
I have been trying to recount as many experiences with women I have throughout my life and document findings/theories. I'd encourage you to check it out and provide feedback based on what you've experienced yourself.
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The Most Important Thread I'll ever write
I have been meaning to do this for a while as you can see from this thread that explains the background - https://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/everything-i-have-learned-about-women-through-real-experiences.232394/ I need to put everything I've learned through my experiences down and documented...www.sosuave.net
sounds like we're in agreement lolDefinitely. That's why I actually get irritated at some of the responses people by reflex give. They make it sound like had you done something a little different (less calling, texting etc...) you would have gotten the girl. More often than not it just boils down to attraction you have no control over. That being said I do believe you should always try and be the best version of yourself.
The silver lining (depending on how you want to look at it lol) I have found is that women can have different types of people they feel this attraction towards. So even though you are objectively more attractive then say a subpar woman... she may not be attracted to you at all. At the same time a better looking girl might be but it will depend on each girl individually regardless of their objective looks.
I have been trying to recount as many experiences with women I have throughout my life and document findings/theories. I'd encourage you to check it out and provide feedback based on what you've experienced yourself.
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The Most Important Thread I'll ever write
I have been meaning to do this for a while as you can see from this thread that explains the background - https://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/everything-i-have-learned-about-women-through-real-experiences.232394/ I need to put everything I've learned through my experiences down and documented...www.sosuave.net
Amen... I think a topic of deeper exploration might be what causes a woman to have a certain attraction.... I'm thinking this could be conditioned at a young age by environment or early exposure to people? An example... maybe a young girl who is around her father's nerdy friend who makes her laugh and comfortable might develop an attraction towards that type?My other reference is when I used to work in an office with a bunch of girls. They spend all day oogling over handsome guys on insta and dm'ing etc, but the hottest girl always picked guys who the others girls thought was ugly. She just didn't have super conventional taste
If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.
Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.
This will quickly drive all women away from you.
And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.
I am 1.80 something , so I can not talk from my own experience about this
but a moment ago I saw a guy , less than 1.80 . I would say around 1.75 , talking with a really good looking 1.80 girl . Guess what , she was enjoying so much his company and flirting
even though some girls would not like someone that is average in height , there are for sure women who are more than ok with this
being average in height is not really an argument for not being able to pull good looking girls , or taller than you
man up !
It might surprise some people to know that the slayer friend of mine who i've mentioned the most (I have 2, but the one i've mentioned many times in my FR's) is actually on the short side. I think he's about 5ft 8. I just think he's facially handsome enough that it's not an issue. I think there's a cut off point where his good looks wouldn't save him, though. Probably under 5'7'' at a guess. At that point I think he wouldn't get the outrageous success he has lol
(I think I even shared the FR here once where a group of hot Eastern European girls were basically trying to rape him, and they were all a fair bit taller haha)
Chuck berry hustleThis is so true. I've had experiences where I feel like I am objectively higher SMV than a girl but she just wasn't feeling it. There are 1,000 reasons why this could be but not worth analyzing. On the other hand, I've attracted some real fine girls I sort of wrote off mentally for the same (reverse) reason. C'est la vie say the old folks, it goes to show you never can tell.
That's a big difference between 18% & 22%! I must be around 20% now (but very good lats frame).
Stand on your wallet and you will become 6ft.I know having some height is definitely an advantage.. However we have to make the best of what the creator has given us.
I am 5ft8 in height, jacked up muscular & with a nicely shaped beard.. I dress sharp too.
Other men often refer to me as "Big Man" even though realisticly I am not that big 5ft8.. However the muscular frame definitely adds to the image.
I seem to do better with females in person rather than online.. Females tend to pick up on that masculine energy around me, I carry myself in a very confident & sure way.
However there will definitely be a group of woman who will write me off simply based on my height.
I would like to hear from other 5ft7 5ft8 5ft9 guys, how are you doing with the ladies?
What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.
You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.
Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.
no issues here eitherI'm 5'8. Never had a problem getting girls, gf's, LTRs, or banging women half my age.
Height is only one small part of an equation with lots of moving parts.
I’m 5’7 and don’t have an issue with landing women. There are other factors that play a role.I know having some height is definitely an advantage.. However we have to make the best of what the creator has given us.
I am 5ft8 in height, jacked up muscular & with a nicely shaped beard.. I dress sharp too.
Other men often refer to me as "Big Man" even though realisticly I am not that big 5ft8.. However the muscular frame definitely adds to the image.
I seem to do better with females in person rather than online.. Females tend to pick up on that masculine energy around me, I carry myself in a very confident & sure way.
However there will definitely be a group of woman who will write me off simply based on my height.
I would like to hear from other 5ft7 5ft8 5ft9 guys, how are you doing with the ladies?
My 5 ft 8 friend has ridiculous success with women. He's not in shape, but his style and social skills are on point.I know having some height is definitely an advantage.. However we have to make the best of what the creator has given us.
I am 5ft8 in height, jacked up muscular & with a nicely shaped beard.. I dress sharp too.
Other men often refer to me as "Big Man" even though realisticly I am not that big 5ft8.. However the muscular frame definitely adds to the image.
I seem to do better with females in person rather than online.. Females tend to pick up on that masculine energy around me, I carry myself in a very confident & sure way.
However there will definitely be a group of woman who will write me off simply based on my height.
I would like to hear from other 5ft7 5ft8 5ft9 guys, how are you doing with the ladies?
If they can do it, why do incels still exist and in such large numbers. What excuse do incels have nowI think these guys are a bit under 5'8 but they qualify
I'm 1,76m (about 5,9) and never had an issue with women. I also never thought about it as an issue.I know having some height is definitely an advantage.. However we have to make the best of what the creator has given us.
I am 5ft8 in height, jacked up muscular & with a nicely shaped beard.. I dress sharp too.
Other men often refer to me as "Big Man" even though realisticly I am not that big 5ft8.. However the muscular frame definitely adds to the image.
I seem to do better with females in person rather than online.. Females tend to pick up on that masculine energy around me, I carry myself in a very confident & sure way.
However there will definitely be a group of woman who will write me off simply based on my height.
I would like to hear from other 5ft7 5ft8 5ft9 guys, how are you doing with the ladies?