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An observation of American guys and their game based on region.

Jesse Pinkman

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I know I have been firing off threads left and right but that is going to cool down soon once life gets busier for me, which is really soon. Now I know my boy @SW15 is going to love this and @Jake_Gyllenhaal69 might have some comments to make on his own. Over the years, I've winged with a lot of different dudes and seen various guys run game. In witnessing this in my years involved in game, namely night game but recently daygame too, I've noticed how the game that American guys have differs vastly based on where in the country they are from. The other thing I noticed is that it seems like certain parts of America produce far more incel-tier guys than others. So here are some of my observations.

I won't be able to cover all regions or even areas where I just haven't met as many wings or men from.

Southern guys have some of the worst game.

Sorry @Bible_Belt and @RangerMIke but I had to say it as a southerner myself. All of those years in Sunday school and being shamed into not having sex before marriage add up. Now I do notice that as you get more towards Louisiana and Texas (which is kinda its own state and region), you start finding more naturals and guys who know what they are doing with women. However, most southern guys are just passive-aggressive and envious guys who act like goody two-shoes and have a deep-seated hatred for men who go from women to women. They will quickly resort to moral superiority and be the first ones to call you a degenerate for having a high lay count. What I noticed more than anything is how southern guys have to rely heavily on social circle game in order to get laid and were awful at most other forms of game.

The struggles that southern guys faced with game are eerily similar to the ones I know men from conservative cultures (Middle Eastern and Pakistani) to face.

I do not count Texas or Florida (more on that later) as the "south" for this thread.

Guys from the northwest are weird when it comes to women and just socializing in general.

@LARaiders85 can comment on this more being a Nor Cal resident himself but I have noticed how a lot of guys from Oregon, Washington, and Northern California come off as an overcompensating tough guy that lack social skills. You have to have been around enough of them to know what I am talking about but they are quick to get confrontational and talk $hit. However, when they do it, it just comes off as trashy and annoying rather than alpha. Around women, these guys take acting rude to the next level and do it in a way that is classless, mean, or just weird. Men from the PNW seem to be some of the creepiest around women and for some reason, the ones who seem like they would be the most likely to join some incel community. No offense to any PNW bros.

Midwestern guys are cool, relaxed, but way too nice.

I've found that when Midwestern guys want, they can truly be killers. Some of the best naturals I have met were from the midwest. However, they are way too relaxed, laid back, and chill. A lot of my midwestern friends seem to lack that drive to get girls and rely more on a natural type of an approach. In other words, midwestern guys go about game in a way that @Fruitbat says you are supposed to about game. A lot of them expect for dating to just sort of happen and don't really do all of the hitting up randoms nonsense. @logicallefty since he is from Illinois can speak more about this.

The one thing that midwestern guys do have working for them is that they are very coachable. You can teach a midwestern guy some game basics and he will learn and do a lot with them. A midwestern guy is the one most likely to come into the game inexperienced but if he finds a good wing to learn from, he is likely to get good himself because he is open to learning.

So Cal and even guys from the Southwest in general rely on clout and popularity to get girls.

You know you are winging with a So Cal guy when he is name dropping left and right and immediately trying to demonstrate higher value. Guys from So Cal and the southwest in general (limited experience here, most has been with Arizona wings) go at game from a popularity contest standpoint. To them, high school never ends and women from the region are the same way. Their approach is always trying to make themselves out to be the guy who knows the hottest spots in town and is somehow "cooler" than you. Some girls do dig it and I'll give them props, they do take care of their looks, but they are far from best.

East coast guys are the most forward and aggressive, especially if they are from Boston.

NYC guys, at least those raised in the city, have relatively awful game. For some reason, they are emotionally vulnerable and sensitive so they don't take well to rejection, some even cussing women out for turning them down. However, I have found that for some reason, Boston produces some of the most forward and aggressive guys in the country. Boston guys seem to be the type to open direct and play off rejection like its nothing. It is that confident douchebag persona boiled down to a tee, they are certainly the boldest.

Texans are actually pretty decent.

While I did diss the south, I have been impressed by Texas and the way guys there go about game. Texas guys are bold and will approach but they occasionally seem awkward. I feel like Texas dudes have the boldness of a guy from Boston but they lack the douchiness to plow through a $hit-test. I respect them because they do try and some of them can actually be pretty good once they have practiced game a little bit. They are miles above southern guys but they seem to also lack calibration in a way. Still above average compared to your typical American guy.

Who do I take for my winner?

Florida guys probably have the best game.

Florida man is definitely a meme and it depends on where in the state you are but I'd say that South Florida seems to produce its fair share of slayers, naturals, or whatever you call them. The culture might be "southern" but it lacks that strict religious sex shaming that persists in most of the south. I have never seen so many guys cold approaching and shooting their shot than at some typical bar in Miami or at the beach. Not only are the guys bold, they also look out for their appearance. At the same time, they seem to have a way of making people relax and feel at ease when they approach which is a killer combination. IMO, Florida seems to produce some straight killers when it comes to the world of game and we all have a lot to learn from Floridaman.

I have found that women feel this way too. Telling them you are from Miami or Florida seems to incite wild fantasies in them from what guys tell me.
 

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Southern guys have some of the worst game.

All of those years in Sunday school and being shamed into not having sex before marriage add up. Now I do notice that as you get more towards Louisiana and Texas (which is kinda its own state and region), you start finding more naturals and guys who know what they are doing with women.
Any social conservative culture is going to mess up your game. There is a big difference between Northern Louisiana and Southern Louisiana. In the Northern part of the State they are mostly Anglo-Saxon protestant evangelical social conservative. The Southern part of the state is mostly, French-Spanish Roman Catholic.
 

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So Cal and even guys from the Southwest in general rely on clout and popularity to get girls.

You know you are winging with a So Cal guy when he is name dropping left and right and immediately trying to demonstrate higher value. Guys from So Cal and the southwest in general (limited experience here, most has been with Arizona wings) go at game from a popularity contest standpoint. To them, high school never ends and women from the region are the same way. Their approach is always trying to make themselves out to be the guy who knows the hottest spots in town and is somehow "cooler" than you. Some girls do dig it and I'll give them props, they do take care of their looks, but they are far from best.
The classic SoCal/Southwestern game you mention is mainly see among Whites (and a few upper tier economically Hispanics) in Los Angeles/Orange County, San Diego, Phoenix, and Tucson (if you're in a venue that's mostly University of Arizona students).

The standard game for White men in these regions is to try to impress hot chicks with douchebag game. It's all about looking cool.

Here's a Phoenix area example. If you're going out to bars in Old Town Scottsdale (often a lot of recent Arizona State and University of Arizona alumni), it's a highly competitive environment. There are a lot of good looking women. The younger women can rely on natural beauty while women around 26-35 or older start to get breast implants and other work to compete. Men think they need to lift and act in rude and pompous ways to attract superficial and pretentious attractuvew women. Phoenix is a little bit better if you avoid Old Town Scottsdale at night, though Mill Ave in Tempe (mainly Arizona State students and recent ASU alumni) is like Old Town to a lesser extent. You're better off daygaming in Phoenix and there are some unique daygame options to that area in the cooler winter months.

In Phoenix, part of why you see this sort of posturing behavior from both sexes is the lack of deep social circles. Maricopa County (covering most of Phoenix) had a 2.1 million population in 1990 and a 4.4 million population in 2020. There are few native Arizonans with deep ties to the area. Tons of transplants are meeting each other either at Mill Ave/Old Town bars or on swipe apps. When few people have social circles and are relying on meeting strangers, people go out of their ways to enhance the most superficial elements of themselves. Guys in Phoenix overplay the coccky card.

Southern California has more natives with more historical roots in that area. Social circles are more likely to be found there. Superficiality has just been ingrained into the culture there for decades so it's a different kind of superficiality than what you get in Phoenix.

In SoCal, you can also game the beach areas. Pacific and Mission Beaches in San Diego are game options, Newport/Huntington Beaches in Orange County and Santa Monica/Venice/various Malibu beaches in Los Angeles are daygame options.

In the Southwest, smaller markets like Albuquerque and El Paso don't operate like SoCal and Phoenix.

Texas (which is kinda its own state and region)

Texans are actually pretty decent.

While I did diss the south, I have been impressed by Texas and the way guys there go about game. Texas guys are bold and will approach but they occasionally seem awkward. I feel like Texas dudes have the boldness of a guy from Boston but they lack the douchiness to plow through a $hit-test. I respect them because they do try and some of them can actually be pretty good once they have practiced game a little bit. They are miles above southern guys but they seem to also lack calibration in a way. Still above average compared to your typical American guy.
It's correct to separate Texas from the rest of the Southern USA. The smaller East Texas towns east of the Texas Triangle (Dallas-Fort Worth, San Antonio, Houston) have a Southern US feeling. These are mainly areas with less than 100,000 population, so they aren't even worth mentioning for game.

The big cities in Texas have a big of that Phoenix element in the fact that social circles tend to be weaker due to massive population growth in recent decades. Whereas Phoenix draws in people from California and Midwest mainly, big Texas cities are drawing transplants from everywhere in the USA and some international ones too. It's hard to classify Texas in some sort of homogenous way.

Dallas' bar scene in the singles dense areas near Downtown Dallas resembles the bar scene in Old Town Scottsdale or certain SoCal bars. Dallas guys aren't as big of clout chasing d-bags as Phoenix or SoCal guys, but enough SoCal guys have transplanted to Dallas to make it seem like clout chasing is a thing here. Houston and San Antonio women are known to be nicer and have overall better attitudes than Dallas women, but the trade off is that they are worse looking. Austin is a toxic environment. Big time SJW women there and the men in Austin are definitely more like men of San Francisco/Brooklyn/Portland (OR).

There's a lot of swipe app use in Texas. The Match Group has its headquarters in Dallas and Bumble is headquartered in Austin. This is not a coincidence. There is a lot of swipe app use in the big Texas cities because of the weak social circles I mentioned.

If Texas men are above average, it is because of native Texan men, Blacks/Hispanics, and weak game in other regions.
 

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East coast guys are the most forward and aggressive, especially if they are from Boston.

NYC guys, at least those raised in the city, have relatively awful game. For some reason, they are emotionally vulnerable and sensitive so they don't take well to rejection, some even cussing women out for turning them down. However, I have found that for some reason, Boston produces some of the most forward and aggressive guys in the country. Boston guys seem to be the type to open direct and play off rejection like its nothing. It is that confident douchebag persona boiled down to a tee, they are certainly the boldest.
I haven't had too much experience with Boston guys.

New Jersey/Long Island/Staten Island men have the confident douchebag persona going well, especially if they are Italian-American. Back in the 2000s/early 2010s, Mike "The Situation" Sorrentino is an example of this, as he was born in Staten Island and raised in New Jersey. In no way was "The Situation" unique in his era, as there were a ton of guys like this. Also, on "Jersey Shore", Vinny was from Staten Island and Ronnie was from The Bronx. Manhattan and Brooklyn produce the most sissified guys in the NY/NJ area, though I think a lot of the Southern Connecticut guys would be weaker too. If you are meeting a male feminist in NYC, it's definitely a Manhattan or Brooklyn guy.

Florida guys probably have the best game.

Florida man is definitely a meme and it depends on where in the state you are but I'd say that South Florida seems to produce its fair share of slayers, naturals, or whatever you call them. The culture might be "southern" but it lacks that strict religious sex shaming that persists in most of the south. I have never seen so many guys cold approaching and shooting their shot than at some typical bar in Miami or at the beach. Not only are the guys bold, they also look out for their appearance. At the same time, they seem to have a way of making people relax and feel at ease when they approach which is a killer combination. IMO, Florida seems to produce some straight killers when it comes to the world of game and we all have a lot to learn from Florida man.

I have found that women feel this way too. Telling them you are from Miami or Florida seems to incite wild fantasies in them from what guys tell me.
Northern Florida feels like the Southern US but it is a different story in the Tampa area, Orlando area, and Miami-Fort Lauderdale.

Miami guys are bold because they are a lot of Hispanic men with stronger game than White men who are often sissified by #MeToo and SJW like cultural propaganda. I would think that if you happened to be one of the fewer White men in Miami, you'd have to step your game up to match the Hispanic level of game or relocate elsewhere.

For Miami, I'd recommend Spanish fluency. Miami and El Paso are the 2 US metros where I perceive Spanish fluent is a must. There are some other areas in the Southwestern US where Spanish fluency will help but you can survive on White women alone.
 
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