Age May Matter for a Man when procuring young girls

[mrgoodstuff]

That's marriage. Is marriage the goal around here? Certainly isn't for me.

Its still relationships... In dating people will be even more risky than these stats.

 

[AJ84]

I have known many middle aged men having sexual relations with women in their 20s. Marriage was never the goal.

I’ve only know a few and yeah they weren’t looking for a husband.

 

[AJ84]

Women are already trying to latch onto the top 20%. Nothing about our instincts has changed. The hindrbrain operates as if it is still 1200 BC

What male demographic makes up this 20%? Are we talking about pro-athletes, celebs, Silicon Valley millionaires? I’m not trying to be sarcastic I honestly want to know. Is there data on it?

 

[lamath]

What male demographic makes up this 20%? Are we talking about pro-athletes, celebs, Silicon Valley millionaires? I’m not trying to be sarcastic I honestly want to know. Is there data on it?

Same here i find it hard to believe.

Imo problem is that alot of younger guys in general lack the social skills and with the rape culture have been brainwash into being ashamed to be mens.

OLD might also be part of the problem, stats has been shown that women find only 20% of men attractive.

 

[redskinsfan92]

What male demographic makes up this 20%? Are we talking about pro-athletes, celebs, Silicon Valley millionaires? I’m not trying to be sarcastic I honestly want to know. Is there data on it?

80/20 rule

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[mrgoodstuff]

What male demographic makes up this 20%? Are we talking about pro-athletes, celebs, Silicon Valley millionaires? I’m not trying to be sarcastic I honestly want to know. Is there data on it?

The ones you mentioned are top 3%

 

[AJ84]

80/20 rule

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Thanks for this but I’m wondering if there is data outside the manosphere? Sorry it’s not a dig at you but it would be like me giving you data from a feminist site lol. Both tend to be skewed imo.

I’m wondering what non gender biased data is out there. I can take a look I’m sure there’s something because I know that there’s a hierarchy of desirable men but I’m interested to know what the attributes are, what the percentage is and what the data is on women dating them to the exclusion of men outside that percentage.

 

[jimmy_scandal]

This graph is from okcupid. Women rate 80% of men as below average in attractiveness (below 5/10).

 

[lamath]

This graph is from okcupid. Women rate 80% of men as below average in attractiveness (below 5/10).

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I think that for a men to be attractive to a women its.more than physical attractivness, and that on OLD men are at a disadvantage. Some smv stuff cant be seen on a pic.
Some attractive men are not as aware about what kind of pic or description might make them more attractive to women. Men are overall behing women whith those subtle details that can make a big difference, also women spend alot more tine to get perfect profile pic



That 20/80 is probably correct for single ppl that are not in ltr.

However imo the total of ppl not having sex ltr included is alot closer than that.

 

[redskinsfan92]

Thanks for this but I’m wondering if there is data outside the manosphere? Sorry it’s not a dig at you but it would be like me giving you data from a feminist site lol. Both tend to be skewed imo.

I’m wondering what non gender biased data is out there. I can take a look I’m sure there’s something because I know that there’s a hierarchy of desirable men but I’m interested to know what the attributes are, what the percentage is and what the data is on women dating them to the exclusion of men outside that percentage.

Rollo often links to data outside the manosphere. So, I linked you to one of his many articles.

Comparing the manosphere to feminists is comparing apples to oranges. Data inside the manosphere has often proved reliable. Especially from the PUAs as they go out and field test theories.

 

[AJ84]

This graph is from okcupid. Women rate 80% of men as below average in attractiveness (below 5/10).

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Thanks for the chart. For sure OLD is a woman’s market so definitely an inflated sense of their SMV as has been discussed here many times.

so the blue line represents the data of females sending males messages? Interesting that though they rate less men as most attractive, they are messaging more men than the percentage they find attractive. I wonder what the context of that is?
I would love to see what the favourable response rate is for women messaging the most attractive men. Like how many of these men message back an average looking woman?

 

[redskinsfan92]

Thanks for this but I’m wondering if there is data outside the manosphere? Sorry it’s not a dig at you but it would be like me giving you data from a feminist site lol. Both tend to be skewed imo.

I’m wondering what non gender biased data is out there. I can take a look I’m sure there’s something because I know that there’s a hierarchy of desirable men but I’m interested to know what the attributes are, what the percentage is and what the data is on women dating them to the exclusion of men outside that percentage.

Here is some info Rollo pointed out to me on Twitter a while back.

Tinder Experiments II: Guys, unless you are really hot you are probably better off not wasting your…

by Worst-Online-Dater

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He also has often shown data proving that women's peak SMV is in the early 20s and men's in the 30s.

 

[AJ84]

Rollo often links to data outside the manosphere. So, I linked you to one of his many articles.

Comparing the manosphere to feminists is comparing apples to oranges. Data inside the manosphere has often proved reliable. Especially from the PUAs as they go out and field test theories.

Feminists say and do and refer to ‘data and studies’ in the exact same manner, and they have been doing it for far far longer than the manosphere. There are many aspects of it that parallel feminist thought and approach.
And PUA’s usually post videos of success after how many failed attempts and there have been rumours that some hire women to pretend.
I’m not saying that everything in the manosphere is BS because it certainly isn’t, just like not everything in feminism is totally BS. However there is a lot of bias. And of course an agenda.

I tend to take both heavily one sided views with a grain of salt to be honest.

 

[AJ84]

Here is some info Rollo pointed out to me on Twitter a while back.

Tinder Experiments II: Guys, unless you are really hot you are probably better off not wasting your…

by Worst-Online-Dater

medium.com

He also has often shown data proving that women's peak SMV is in the early 20s and men's in the 30s.

Yeah I have heard this about Tinder before. I think, because it’s basically a hook up causal sex site, women will try to f**k a hot guy over trying to date a regular one.

think about it: if you know it’s just going to be about sex, would you choose average or try to land the hottest you can? That’s how a female will think. For Tinder I can definitely see women focusing on the top hottest guys if they can get them ( though those guys are just using them for sex).
This is not accomplishment for women at all. It’s kind of sad when some of them think it is.

 

[lamath]

Feminists say and do and refer to ‘data and studies’ in the exact same manner, and they have been doing it for far far longer than the manosphere. There are many aspects of it that parallel feminist thought and approach.
And PUA’s usually post videos of success after how many failed attempts and there have been rumours that some hire women to pretend.
I’m not saying that everything in the manosphere is BS because it certainly isn’t, just like not everything in feminism is totally BS. However there is a lot of bias. And of course an agenda.

I tend to take both heavily one sided views with a grain of salt to be honest.

Imo bias data.most of the time like this article
Poor women no men are financially stable enough for them.

Like the lack of financially stable men are affecting women the most. This is solipsism if i ever saw it.
What about those men that lost their purpose and cant perform in the feminist brainwash word.

US marriage rates may be dipping because of a shortage of financially stable men, study suggests

Articles and videos about US marriage rates may be dipping because of a shortage of financially stable men, study suggests on FOX 10 Phoenix.

www.fox10phoenix.com

 

[AJ84]

Imo bias data.most of the time like this article
Poor women no men are financially stable enough for them.

Like the lack of financially stable men are affecting women the most. This is solipsism if i ever saw it.
What about those men that lost their purpose and cant perform in the feminist brainwash word.

US marriage rates may be dipping because of a shortage of financially stable men, study suggests

Articles and videos about US marriage rates may be dipping because of a shortage of financially stable men, study suggests on FOX 10 Phoenix.

www.fox10phoenix.com

Don’t even get me started on that one lol:

Makes 150k and brags that she don’t need no man’s money.

Won’t date a guy who makes less than her.

I‘m aware of that long establish hypocrisy. Knew a girl who worked in finance who didn’t want me to set her up with this male friend of mine because he was ‘just an electrician apprentice’ well jokes on her because two years later guess who makes twice as much as her? Lol and I set him up with a friend of mine who didn’t care that he was apprentice and they are married now Hahahaha

 

[Epimanes]

Im 41.... look early to mid 30s when i shave.... the dating scene here in Vancouver isnt in my favor at all... all the ladies in my age range dont seem to take care of themselves at all... i dont understand wtf... and i can't for the life of me seem to attract anything younger than me by even a few years.... older than me is np... all of them seem to be average to "a few extra lbs" .... ugh... im fit.... work out some.. fairly muscular with a bit of body fat to cut.. when my face is shaved i look way young... but im losing my hair so i shave it off Jason Stathom style.... makes me wonder if i am stuck with settling for meh puzzy or just forget about it all.... *shrugs*

 

[lamath]

Im 41.... look early to mid 30s when i shave.... the dating scene here in Vancouver isnt in my favor at all... all the ladies in my age range dont seem to take care of themselves at all... i dont understand wtf... and i can't for the life of me seem to attract anything younger than me by even a few years.... older than me is np... all of them seem to be average to "a few extra lbs" .... ugh... im fit.... work out some.. fairly muscular with a bit of body fat to cut.. when my face is shaved i look way young... but im losing my hair so i shave it off Jason Stathom style.... makes me wonder if i am stuck with settling for meh puzzy or just forget about it all.... *shrugs*

At 39 i notice something similar same age and older women are way more direct towards me.

Younger women are more subtle and will wait for me to make the first move.

Just what i have seen so far.

On OLD im not sure, its not my cup of teai rather stay clear.
Imo alot of dmg entitle women on there.

 

[malz1]

I rarely see guys with little lms pull females except at an older age where theyre usually better positioned to betabuxx. This especially becomes apparent in college where the females aren't as resource driven.

Being older, one of the drawbacks about lying about age is that a close relationship would have is difficulties due to her likely finding out. You have to play the fkboy role or lie thru the teeth lol.

 

[lamath]

Because ultimately she won’t respect him. Without respect, there is no relation.

The pool for high earning women, thus, is small. And guess where the high earning (good looking) men who earn more than her are? With younger women who are not earning much lol

But thats because those men are afraid of smart successful women, not because those women wasted their best years becoming successful obv