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Frame vs being stubborn

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How would you guys compare the term "holding the frame" vs just "being stubborn" or "being obstinate"?
 

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How would you guys compare the term "holding the frame" vs just "being stubborn" or "being obstinate"?
Having a functional sense of reality along having emotional fortitude versus being emotionally clingy to set beliefs.

The key is rationality. In other words, observations and experience is the starting point, followed by conceptualization guided by logic and then formulated into principles. <-- the main components of rational thought and the mechanism of the improvement of one's relationship with reality.
 
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Its like people will say, "hold the frame", but most of the time that translate to take decision no matter the outcome.

So if she says "we need to go travel" and you say "no, there will be no travel this week I do have soccer match" and you hold that even if she get upset and then after she become sweet again and you have make up sex.

Is that holding the frame?
Or just being stubborn?
 

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Its like people will say, "hold the frame", but most of the time that translate to take decision no matter the outcome.

So if she says "we need to go travel" and you say "no, there will be no travel this week I do have soccer match" and you hold that even if she get upset and then after she become sweet again and you have make up sex.

Is that holding the frame?
Or just being stubborn?
Do you know Pook? Here is a quote from him.

"A Man, Focuses on his dreams.
No, this does not include the chick. You must have passion for something in life, something you even want to do for the rest of your
life. Your romantic life is an echo of your regular life."

The world seems to be like a mirror as far as I can tell from my experience. It makes sense to me.
 
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