"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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If you don't like it, then help me be effective with the college girls. The faster I find my future wife, the faster I stop hitting on them.
The fact you are looking for college girls says all I need to know about where you are at in your life. And that's nowhere good.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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The fact you are looking for college girls says all I need to know about where you are at in your life. And that's nowhere good.
This is contrived thinking, and what theory without the experience looks like
 

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No that's what real life experience, maturity and growth as a man looks like.
Being a coward in the face of people shaming you is not the mark of maturity or masculinity.

Effectiveness in the face of pain and/or frustration is masculine (and mature too). Going my own way despite people like yourself trying to shame me away from my future wife and family is showing you a degree of maturity that it sounds like you don't have.

Remember this: Observations and first hand experience > Theory (what you think "should" be).
 

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Being a coward in the face of people shaming you is not the mark of maturity or masculinity.

Effectiveness in the face of pain and/or frustration is masculine (and mature too). Going my own way despite people like yourself trying to shame me away from my future wife and family is showing you a degree of maturity that it sounds like you don't have.

Remember this: Observations and first hand experience > Theory (what you think "should" be).
The fact you think this is "being a coward" shows you are still thinking like a teen in a grown man's body.

Grow up. It's never too late.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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The fact you think this is "being a coward" shows you are still thinking like a teen in a grown man's body.

Grow up. It's never too late.
That makes no sense
 

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That makes no sense
It makes a lot of sense as a grown man. Not much looking at it like a teenager.

It seems like you want a college woman not because they would actually be compatible with you and your life, but because you want to "show them off" and almost like you want to use it to prove something to others.

Which tells me you are really doing this because you are insecure and are using this as external validation of your own worth.

Of course you'll deny it, and claim some other stuff but I think the preponderance of the evidence from your posts lead to the same conclusion.

And I think most people who read all of them and put them all together would come to the same conclusion.
 

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It makes a lot of sense as a grown man. Not much looking at it like a teenager.

It seems like you want a college woman not because they would actually be compatible with you and your life, but because you want to "show them off" and almost like you want to use it to prove something to others.
This is based on your contrived interpretation. If your theory doesn't match with what you see in front of you, get rid of your theory.
 

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And I want to be clear, what I find attractive is an observation, and since I'm rational then my first hand experience trumps what others think any day of the week and twice as much on Sundays
 

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And I want to be clear, what I find attractive is an observation, and since I'm rational then my first hand experience trumps what others think any day of the week and twice as much on Sundays
That's all well and good. But reality doesn't really care what you think, it's still reality.

Having zero in common with someone at a completely different stage of their life (I hope for your sake at least), is not a recipe for long term success.

Now if your goal is to just get your d!ck wet, then sure, have at it. It will be creepy and weird for 90% of the women, but you will probably find 10% that might go for it and could have some success.

But beyond that, trying to find anything more than a woman for recreational use at a club is a fool's errand. You are wasting your time, especially with a 20+ year age difference.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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That's all well and good. But reality doesn't really care what you think, it's still reality.
The statement is correct, but I notice that you are often correct for the wrong reasons. I don't think you are at all stupid, at least you have the capacity to be smart. Based on what I've read from you, my best guess is that you go wrong by using induction by numeration instead of induction within context. Here's some examples:

You are at a lake, and see a large flock of swans. Every swan you see is white, so you conclude that all swans are white. This is induction by numeration. The correct conclusion from the observation is that these swans are white.

You are a DJ at a club, and you notice some creepy 40 somethings hitting on 20 year old women. So you concluded that all 40 somethings who hit on 20 year old women are creepy. The correct conclusion would have been that these 40 somethings who hit on 20 year old women were creepy

Having zero in common with someone at a completely different stage of their life (I hope for your sake at least), is not a recipe for long term success.
In my experience, age has little to nothing to do with personal compatibility. For me though, age does have a lot to do with whether or not the woman passes the b0ner test, and there's no sense seeking a relationship with a women who doesn't pass the b0ner test.

I'm thinking that your contrived conclusions are coming from your interpretation from your experience, and when you see something different (me), you think there's something wrong with what you see (reality) instead of the notion that you contrived of incorrectly.

Like I said before, if you don't like the idea of a 40 something year old man hitting on young women, then you can help me reach my goal, the sooner I get there the faster this ends, and if you can't do that, then stay out of my way.
 

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The statement is correct, but I notice that you are often correct for the wrong reasons. I don't think you are at all stupid, at least you have the capacity to be smart. Based on what I've read from you, my best guess is that you go wrong by using induction by numeration instead of induction within context. Here's some examples:

You are at a lake, and see a large flock of swans. Every swan you see is white, so you conclude that all swans are white. This is induction by numeration. The correct conclusion from the observation is that these swans are white.

You are a DJ at a club, and you notice some creepy 40 somethings hitting on 20 year old women. So you concluded that all 40 somethings who hit on 20 year old women are creepy. The correct conclusion would have been that these 40 somethings who hit on 20 year old women were creepy



In my experience, age has little to nothing to do with personal compatibility. For me though, age does have a lot to do with whether or not the woman passes the b0ner test, and there's no sense seeking a relationship with a women who doesn't pass the b0ner test.

I'm thinking that your contrived conclusions are coming from your interpretation from your experience, and when you see something different (me), you think there's something wrong with what you see (reality) instead of the notion that you contrived of incorrectly.

Like I said before, if you don't like the idea of a 40 something year old man hitting on young women, then you can help me reach my goal, the sooner I get there the faster this ends, and if you can't do that, then stay out of my way.
Actually it's taken from your own posts that show the end result from what women deem "creepy" behavior...

Bouncers getting called over and you getting thrown out of the club for talking with women, something I've never even personally witnessed meaning it must have been pretty disconcerting behavior...

A woman going to the bathroom with friends, claiming she would be back and then bouncing out the back door...

Probably others that I didn't bother reading or forgot...

Essentially your own words paint you as that, nothing I need to imagine really.

When something walks like duck, quacks like a duck and swims like a duck, I call it a duck. You can make up whatever word you want for it.
 

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For me though, age does have a lot to do with whether or not the woman passes the b0ner test...
^^First off just want to say I have absolutely no issue with you or any man dating younger women, even a 40+ year old man dating college-aged women.

If you meet such a woman, there is a mutual attraction and you're compatible including in the bedroom, go for it! There is absolutely nothing "wrong" or "bad" about it!

What's confusing to me is why limit yourself to only college-aged? And attempting to meet her at the college bars?

Using your own logic to @BackInTheGame78 , just like not all 40+ men are creepy for frequenting college-aged bars, logic dictates that not all college-aged women are attractive and will pass your boner test.

In fact there are women 25-30 (or older) who are more attractive and who may even look younger than some of those 18-21 year old women at the clubs.

I know a few! Especially here in SoCal but anywhere you go really. Many with less baggage as well!

So to me and which makes sense is it's not her "age" that gives you a boner, it's how attractive she is (to you) and how young she looks which in many cases has very little to do with her chronological age.

So again why limit yourself to only college-aged? That in and of itself may seem creepy to some people.

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Actually it's taken from your own posts that show the end result from what women deem "creepy" behavior...

Bouncers getting called over and you getting thrown out of the club for talking with women, something I've never even personally witnessed meaning it must have been pretty disconcerting behavior...

A woman going to the bathroom with friends, claiming she would be back and then bouncing out the back door...

Probably others that I didn't bother reading or forgot...

Essentially your own words paint you as that, nothing I need to imagine really.

When something walks like duck, quacks like a duck and swims like a duck, I call it a duck. You can make up whatever word you want for it.
I don't think so. Or at least if there were some bad vibes coming from me, it's not like there's anything I could change if I needed to. I basically picked up dancing in the last two months. That 12/02/25 case, the young lady was not at all creeped out, it was her friends who didn't like the situation; I should have introduced myself to both of them so that they could have participated and felt included, and/or felt more comfortable with me taking their friend dancing. You have to keep in mind too, that I'm dealing with the age gap stigma. That stigma is 100% possible to overcome.

There's really no good reason why I can't have a woman who I feel is attractive. People like you seem to have a problem with that and so far have produced no good reason why. What's the problem with you instead helping me achieve my goals? If I'm with a woman, and the attraction and compatibility are mutual, everyone wins. Think about the demographic decline of the developed world, of high IQ people like myself, of someone who makes a good living, think about the lonely young women out there lacking a good connection. Why are you @BackInTheGame78 trying to convince me not to solve these problems?
 

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What's confusing to me is why limit yourself to only college-aged? And attempting to meet her at the college bars?
I don't limit myself completely to college bars. I do most of my approaches in the day time actually. Most women I find attractive are college aged. If find some 25-29 attractive (maybe like, 5-10%), and less than 1% of 30-35.

Youtuber Shoeonhead is 31 and I find her attractive (she's married).


So to me and which makes sense is it's not her "age" that gives you a boner, it's how attractive she is (to you) and how young she looks which is many cases has very little to do with her chronological age.
I've thought about this for some time and it comes down to how pretty her face is, her energy level, cheerfulness, and not taking herself too seriously. That's mostly young ladies who aren't boss b!tches, and then fewer with age.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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I don't think so. Or at least if there were some bad vibes coming from me, it's not like there's anything I could change if I needed to. I basically picked up dancing in the last two months. That 12/02/25 case, the young lady was not at all creeped out, it was her friends who didn't like the situation; I should have introduced myself to both of them so that they could have participated and felt included, and/or felt more comfortable with me taking their friend dancing. You have to keep in mind too, that I'm dealing with the age gap stigma. That stigma is 100% possible to overcome.

There's really no good reason why I can't have a woman who I feel is attractive. People like you seem to have a problem with that and so far have produced no good reason why. What's the problem with you instead helping me achieve my goals? If I'm with a woman, and the attraction and compatibility are mutual, everyone wins. Think about the demographic decline of the developed world, of high IQ people like myself, of someone who makes a good living, think about the lonely young women out there lacking a good connection. Why are you @BackInTheGame78 trying to convince me not to solve these problems?
I think the bigger issue is you are fixated that the only women you find attractive is under age 22.

That makes zero sense. So you look at a woman, think to yourself "Wow, she is fvcking hot!" then ask how old she is and if she says 25, then you find her repulsive? I mean, who operates like this?

So what's the plan, once they turn 21 you no longer find them attractive and you need to start over again?

At this point I think you might want to change your name to Alice and move to Wonderland because you clearly don't operate in the same reality as most people do...namely the one that actually exists.

You aren't Leo DiCaprio, and don't have the same status, money, game and panache he does to pull that off because of you did you clearly wouldn't be struggling to get a single one let alone have the ability to trade them in at will.
 

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I think the bigger issue is you are fixated that the only women you find attractive is under age 20.
'Fixation' is not at all the word I would use. I'd say 'preference.'

That makes zero sense. So you look at a woman, think to yourself "Wow, she is fvcking hot!" then ask how old she is and if she says 25, then you find her repulsive? I mean, who operates like this?

So what's the plan, once they turn 21 you no longer find them attractive and you need to start over again?
That's not what happens.

At this point I think you might want to change your name to Alice and move to Wonderland because you clearly don't operate in the same reality as most people do...namely the one that actually exists.
I'm not at all convinced that you have a better grasp of reality than I do.
 

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I didn't see this in your original post because you edited it.

You aren't Leo DiCaprio, and don't have the same status, money, game and panache he does to pull that off because of you did you clearly wouldn't be struggling to get a single one let alone have the ability to trade them in at will.
Again, you are trying to discourage me from hitting on women who I find are attractive for no good reason. I'm not Leonardo DiCaprio but I'm still better than most dudes out there. Maybe you have a fixation on making sure people conform to your bvll**** because of your unwillingness to be open about being wrong with your preconceived notions.
 

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I didn't see this in your original post because you edited it.



Again, you are trying to discourage me from hitting on women who I find are attractive for no good reason. I'm not Leonardo DiCaprio but I'm still better than most dudes out there. Maybe you have a fixation on making sure people conform to your bvll**** because of your unwillingness to be open about being wrong with your preconceived notions.
Actually what I am trying to do is let you know at age 40+ you should have far more important pursuits than going to college bars to pick up college aged women.
 

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Actually what I am trying to do is let you know at age 40+ you should have far more important pursuits than going to college bars to pick up college aged women.
I'm planning to expand my current lawn business, and start another business using AI. I also want to fight in a ring and promote my philosophy and politics on social media. After that, I'm going to approach and hit on as many 18-20 year olds as I want this year just for you.
Going to college bars and hitting on young ladies makes me happy, and it's perfect in between doing everything else I'm doing.

But really @BackInTheGame78 who the F do you think you are to tell me what I should and shouldn't be doing? What right do you have to dictate to me on my course of action? You want to discourage me from doing what makes me happy, and tell me that I have no right to be happy. You want to deprive that one young lady who is out there from me being there. If I were in a happy and serious relationship with a women, regardless if she's 31 or just turned 18, are you going to tell me that I ought to have other priorities?

You denounce me as not having a grasp on reality, but it's you who lacks a grip on reality. Where does this notion that at age 40 that I have to act like other people? A man who is grounded to reality doesn't look to other people as his source of whether something is right or wrong. That is actually childish behavior.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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