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Older dudes (30+) in the US getting college girls that are actually hot, ever seen it?

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I used to be able to pull that off in my early 30's but I have not been able to do so, so far in my early 40's.

I looked and felt good a decade ago, and I had a huge acquaintance circle that involved entry level positions in retail and extra-circular activities on a university campus. I looked good because I looked a lot younger than my age at the time, plus I felt good about myself (better than how I feel now) and I had access. I did not throw money around nor did I look particularly good. I knew of a few guys that were supposedly good looking and had rich daddies, so in their early 20's hot high school/college girls would throw themselves at them. I did not get the attention that they got, but I still bedded average to above average looking girls in 18 to 22.
I can understand if you are niche/hobby maxxing and you actually have some aura/game/authority working for you(Professor, a boss, a guy high up in some art community or something). However, I find it hard to believe that some average older guy with nothing standout about him is just regularly pulling hot college women at ease without paying for it in some form or shape.
 

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I know that there are two conflicting schools of thought here. The Red Pill and Manosphere claim that mid-30s are a guy's prime (I disagree for hooking up) and a guy that age has a lot of options. The Reddit Feminazis say that only ugly college girls go for old men while the hot ones go for guys their own age.

For those of you in here with a lot of life experience, have you known college girls that were actually hot get with significantly older guys (30+)?
This varies vastly depending on the country, state, region, etc. Even within the U.S., there would be a huge difference based on location. What is true of college girls in NYC does not necessarily apply to college girls in Nebraska.
 

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I can understand if you are niche/hobby maxxing and you actually have some aura/game/authority working for you(Professor, a boss, a guy high up in some art community or something). However, I find it hard to believe that some average older guy with nothing standout about him is just regularly pulling hot college women at ease without paying for it in some form or shape.
In my opinion, for what it's worth, I think it has a lot to do with how you feel about yourself and who you are as a person. I felt really good about myself, I felt that I was special and was going somewhere in life, and I genuinely really like young women.
 

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I would think region matters a lot here. Personally, I cannot see an older guy coming into the SEC and getting laid with traditional Southern girls that look good. I could however see it in the Big 10 and Pac 12 where people are more laid back, maybe even the northeast to some degree. Big cities, I think it may become a thing. One of my friends is 34 and he smashed a U of Miami girl in the bathroom of a nightclub.
 

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I would think region matters a lot here. Personally, I cannot see an older guy coming into the SEC and getting laid with traditional Southern girls that look good. I could however see it in the Big 10 and Pac 12 where people are more laid back, maybe even the northeast to some degree. Big cities, I think it may become a thing. One of my friends is 34 and he smashed a U of Miami girl in the bathroom of a nightclub.
Remember, they send their best looking women to the SEC :cool:. Have you been on a non-SEC campus? it's pretty contrasting with the women lol. Even women at Arizona State just had that fake hot look which I was not in to, but I am sure plenty of guys are.
 

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women at Arizona State just had that fake hot look which I was not in to, but I am sure plenty of guys are.
Arizona State's main campus in Tempe is a competitive mating environment. Most Arizona State women are getting with Arizona State men but I have heard of some Arizona State women going older in the form of sugar daddy game. There are older guys with enough money to do sugar daddy game in parts of Phoenix that aren't close to the Tempe campus.

Pac 12 where people are more laid back
Are you talking about the legacy Pac 10/Pac 12 schools? I don't think they are as laid back as you might think.

The Los Angeles schools (UCLA and USC), University of Arizona, and Arizona State are very image oriented.
 

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Look at this girl on Instagram, chic places, exclusive events, luxury clothes. She could easily be with a man 10–20 years older.
Today, many women, once they experience wealth and this lifestyle, they won’t go back to dating a guy in his dad’s basement.
They’ll only want men who can provide that.


State and Corporate jobs helps this by giving women careers that replace the role of a husband. Titles, business trips, exclusive events, the Instagram life. But it’s all a fragile trend. These women often stop needing men; they see them as just the cherry on top. I’ve seen it with my sister, her friends, once they change, they don’t go back.
Those women are lost.


So to reply to OP, I Think that if a woman search for a 10+ y.o. man that is either her childhood imprinting (her father it's older than her mother), or either their career/lifestyle imprinting (business trips, lifestyle, etc)
 

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Look at this girl on Instagram, chic places, exclusive events, luxury clothes. She could easily be with a man 10–20 years older.
Today, many women, once they experience wealth and this lifestyle, they won’t go back to dating a guy in his dad’s basement.
They’ll only want men who can provide that.


State and Corporate jobs helps this by giving women careers that replace the role of a husband. Titles, business trips, exclusive events, the Instagram life. But it’s all a fragile trend. These women often stop needing men; they see them as just the cherry on top. I’ve seen it with my sister, her friends, once they change, they don’t go back.
Those women are lost.


So to reply to OP, I Think that if a woman search for a 10+ y.o. man that is either her childhood imprinting (her father it's older than her mother), or either their career/lifestyle imprinting (business trips, lifestyle, etc)
just curious what you would rate that girl looks wise? She is an 8 in my book.
 

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Look at this girl on Instagram, chic places, exclusive events, luxury clothes. She could easily be with a man 10–20 years older.
Today, many women, once they experience wealth and this lifestyle, they won’t go back to dating a guy in his dad’s basement.
They’ll only want men who can provide that.
And that woman is not going to date a 10-20 year older dusty guy with nothing to bring to the table but his vibe either. The older men those women are fvcking are high smv guys with money and status. Status and money is relative because the roughneck bubba with a loaded F250 and construction company can be considered high smv in a small town. At some point, you will have to bring something to the table to continue dating younger women. I don't think there's anything unusual about that at all.
 

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just curious what you would rate that girl looks wise? She is an 8 in my book.
6.5-7 personally. But then one thing I learnt from the 'post your 10' thread is that we all have wildly different tastes lol
 

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She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

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For those of you in here with a lot of life experience, have you known college girls that were actually hot get with significantly older guys (30+)?
Who said 30+ is significantly older?

If a man lives cleanly and is at least 6’1, he can easily get a college girl.
 

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why is she a this low?
Just personally I don't really think her face as that attractive. Not sure how old she is, but she looks kind of old even though she's probably young. Got that slightly off look to me a bit like how one of the Olsen twins ended up looking.
Her body is nice and slim but doesn't seem to have much in the way of t1ts at all.
I certainly would bang her! Make no mistake. But I feel like I see girls even in my sh1tty town in the UK who i'd much rather bang ever time i leave the house!

This is much more my type, personally:

http://instagr.am/p/DM8IOTxsdAY/
 

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Just personally I don't really think her face as that attractive. Not sure how old she is, but she looks kind of old even though she's probably young. Got that slightly off look to me a bit like how one of the Olsen twins ended up looking.
Her body is nice and slim but doesn't seem to have much in the way of t1ts at all.
I certainly would bang her! Make no mistake. But I feel like I see girls even in my sh1tty town in the UK who i'd much rather bang ever time i leave the house!

This is much more my type, personally:

http://instagr.am/p/DM8IOTxsdAY/
That girl is definitely more attractive lol.
 

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That girl is definitely more attractive lol.
They seem to be in the same looks bracket, but the latter appears to have a more extroverted personality than the former.
 
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I can understand if you are niche/hobby maxxing and you actually have some aura/game/authority working for you(Professor, a boss, a guy high up in some art community or something). However, I find it hard to believe that some average older guy with nothing standout about him is just regularly pulling hot college women at ease without paying for it in some form or shape.
I’ve actually been saying this for a while now: the best method of pulling younger women is through social circles and power dynamics (e.g., teacher, guardian, manager, mentor, coach).
 

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To all the older guys claiming it is common and easy. What separates y'all from the high smv guys her age and older high smv guys willing to throw money at them like professional athletes, sugar daddies, and etc? Is your game just that pristine to overcome these hurdles for the cream of the crop young college women?
Nothing necessarily "separates" me or anyone from anyone. It's just a matter of showing up and doing. College girls are super horny, out of their parents' clutches for the first time, and always looking to prove that they're mature and adult. And they are looking to experiment. A man with some semblance of charm and a job just has to go out and talk to them.

Other high smv guys aren't my concern. I don't see why a man would go out to meet women and have some imaginary guy on his mind. This is why so many guys here fail, they have a Chad boogeyman living in their brains and fail to understand how seduction even works. They think they are in a L/M/S beauty pageant.
 

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Nothing necessarily "separates" me or anyone from anyone. It's just a matter of showing up and doing. College girls are super horny, out of their parents' clutches for the first time, and always looking to prove that they're mature and adult. And they are looking to experiment. A man with some semblance of charm and a job just has to go out and talk to them.

Other high smv guys aren't my concern. I don't see why a man would go out to meet women and have some imaginary guy on his mind. This is why so many guys here fail, they have a Chad boogeyman living in their brains and fail to understand how seduction even works. They think they are in a L/M/S beauty pageant.
tbh, you'd almost certainly get rejected if you're actually 49! You'd have to approach a LOT of really hot 18 year old girls before one gave you a shot at your age. Hundreds and hundreds before one was interested/sexually attracted.
I remember when RSDTyler released new footage when he was doing his 'state to state infields' (now as a much older man with a big grey beard) and he was getting NOWEHERE with the really young ones. As he got older and older, his success infield seemed to always come from slightly older women AND he seemed to rely more and more on his girlfriend to help him out. Ross jefferies should release some new infield of him trying to same day lay hot 18 year olds on the street!!! Would honestly be hysterical
 
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That girl is definitely more attractive lol.
do you think these guys would have an extremely high chance of banging her from a cold approach? They're kind of old so they have a massive advantage, presumably. Vs, say a good looking 19 year old



 

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