"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Why is OLD the last couple years borderline unusable??

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It’s definitely worse than it was 2 years ago. I keep track of how much I’ve gotten laid and I only use OLD. Numbers aren’t even close these last 2 years. Something is up
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Back in the early 2000's OLD was a great way for introverts to find each other. Now, I can't be bothered with it.
I still wouldn't consider it great. My cousin tried OLD for a time because he was divorced. This was around 2003 or so. He was about 40 or so then but what you would consider a textbook Chad looks wise. 6ft, muscular, worked out and played roller hockey and has extrovert personality. Even he didn't do well I recall. One dates and that's it. In reality he easily IRL pulled in much younger women. When he was around 38ish had a 19 year old girlfriend. She turned into a druggy eventually though but was good looking. When he was in the marines when he was in his 20s he always pulled in tons of chicks. Also has a personality even at 60 and married again he still flirts with women at gatherings.
 

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It depends where, Tinder and Bumble are used everywhere, Hinge is mainly used in North-America, it's not as popular in Europe, from my experience, maybe it has changed.
Hinge is popular in the UK, my friend was using it in 2017 and getting dates (I wasn’t using OLD at the time). I have never used it myself.
 

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Back in the early 2000's OLD was a great way for introverts to find each other.
I still wouldn't consider it great. My cousin tried OLD for a time because he was divorced. This was around 2003 or so. He was about 40 or so then but what you would consider a textbook Chad looks wise. 6ft, muscular, worked out and played roller hockey and has extrovert personality. Even he didn't do well I recall. One dates and that's it. In reality he easily IRL pulled in much younger women. When he was around 38ish had a 19 year old girlfriend. She turned into a druggy eventually though but was good looking. When he was in the marines when he was in his 20s he always pulled in tons of chicks. Also has a personality even at 60 and married again he still flirts with women at gatherings.
The online dating websites in the early 2000s were likely better than the swipe apps today but still not great. I'm sure there are plenty of stories similar to the story of @I_have_BDE 's brother from that era. If that guy had a lot of "one date, no sex, no second date" type interactions dating websites at that time, then a lot more men were having that same issue.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Back in the early 2000's OLD was a great way for introverts to find each other. Now, I can't be bothered with it.
There was also less emphasis on looks. There was a time where noone could use a photo.

However. VR dating might be a solution since people use avatars and any compatibility would be pure and the looks would come later.
 

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It’s definitely worse than it was 2 years ago. I keep track of how much I’ve gotten laid and I only use OLD. Numbers aren’t even close these last 2 years. Something is up
When you hang around this board allot then some of the bad luck will rub off on you too.
 

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There was also less emphasis on looks. There was a time where noone could use a photo.

However. VR dating might be a solution since people use avatars and any compatibility would be pure and the looks would come later.
Sounds like the personals you'd see in the newspapers before online dating. I wonder how that worked? Must been for real losers. Look at the personals, meet up and the women are fat.
 

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Sounds like the personals you'd see in the newspapers before online dating. I wonder how that worked? Must been for real losers. Look at the personals, meet up and the women are fat.
Women are fat today too. In fact everyone is.complaining about that. Before it may be a shock and try other ways but today its a dry spell buster, if at that.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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People getting laid just same as usual OP. What wrong with you, you are incel??
 

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Apps are just there to make money. They have to keep the money coming in to pay-off the shareholders. You cant run a society like this hence it is all going end. Ofcourse a capitalist enterprise like a dating app is not going to help anyone find happiness this is the most obvious contradiction.

It will probably get worse over time as these companies will have to keep making profits and they have big marketing expenses and such so they need to recoup that from the user base, keep them coming back and keep them on the apps, it is just all about money. Overtime only the trash women and then just the trash men will remain on these apps which will only be for hookups for the bottom end of society.

Ofcourse you cannot trust an app company with no expertise in community and civilization building to intermediate in something as important as social and interpersonal relationships because these things are the pillars of a functioning society and ti can only be done by those with the correct expertise.
 

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Women are fat today too. In fact everyone is.complaining about that. Before it may be a shock and try other ways but today its a dry spell buster, if at that.
Yeah and guys ignore the fact that they themselves are slobs too.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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I have a part time job a couple nights a week I do in retail. So of course lots of younger people. I never see any of the ladies on the OLD sites who work there except for this one lady in her late 30s who's obese, and borderline Downs. She's been on the apps for years. Being she's borderline she has no bf of course. Otherwise none of the ladies use it. The younger ones you'd be shocked not all go for chads and many go for normal guys. They meet them in person or at school, not OLD crap.
 

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Yeah and guys ignore the fact that they themselves are slobs too.
FAR more sloppy women than men though. I'm not saying all men skinny but less men seem obese or maybe they're just a tad husky unlike the women seem to outnumber men when it comes to being fat.
 

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I think location is important.

FAR more sloppy women than men though. I'm not saying all men skinny but less men seem obese or maybe they're just a tad husky unlike the women seem to outnumber men when it comes to being fat.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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