"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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This forum is lowering people's testosterone levels

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Watch this video and you'll understand why


 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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I like Sapolsky. He's incisive like a razor blade.
 

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He's a smart guy. He is wrong about free will, but in his feild he knows his stuff.
I like his succinctness, how he shaves off the fluff to get to the bones of the argument.
 

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This is the type of stuff that fascinates me: neuroscience and masculinity. Testosterone has become the scapegoat/root cause of society's violence. Effectively, men have been demonized and I don't mean that with any victimized tone. But the concept of masculinity has been watered down to suit "equality". Men have become feminized, which is WRONG. And I wouldn't be surprised to go as far as to say that many of the vices, distractions and even products around are designed to lower T-levels.

Excellent video finding, man.

Modern Man Advice
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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I swear if I get a doctorate in this stuff and say that breathing lowers testosterone, I would have indirectly killed a vast majority of this forum.
 

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most of the people denounceing Men, toxic masculinity & testosterone are irrelevant & safely ignored. I live in a Deep Blue aeea of CA & I never hear anyone pushing snti-men stuff. Most people don’t care about it.
 

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most of the people denounceing Men, toxic masculinity & testosterone are irrelevant & safely ignored. I live in a Deep Blue aeea of CA & I never hear anyone pushing snti-men stuff. Most people don’t care about it.
The problem is that these notions have infiltrated our collective psyches and men as a whole are demoralized. You don't hear many people espouse anti-men beliefs, but it's definitely there with practically everybody in a subtle way.
 

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The problem is that these notions have infiltrated our collective psyches and men as a whole are demoralized. You don't hear many people espouse anti-men beliefs, but it's definitely there with practically everybody in a subtle way.
I think many younger guys are in that boat. I’m middle aged and grew up with ‘manly-men’ role models, But I’ve noticed younger male coworkers seem less interested in women. T levels have dropped.
 

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I think many younger guys are in that boat. I’m middle aged and grew up with ‘manly-men’ role models, But I’ve noticed younger male coworkers seem less interested in women. T levels have dropped.
I've noticed that too. I think it's also the increased social engineering.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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think many younger guys are in that boat. I’m middle aged and grew up with ‘manly-men’ role models, But I’ve noticed younger male coworkers seem less interested in women. T levels have dropped.

My brother is close to ten years younger than me. I was the best man at his wedding and met many of his college friends for the first time. 4 of the 6 in the wedding didn’t even have a date... and on the limo to the wedding were talking about video games.... at the wedding they danced with each other and didn’t make any moves on any of the single girls there.... much different times....
 

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Sounds like a lot of pseudoscience that sounds good but has no basis in reality.
 

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Your testosterone decrease when your position is low in the social hierarchy, when you're told to sit down and shut up while you cannot do anything to fight back even when the offender is a weaker creature that nature never intended to have a say yet now can make or break you effortlessly.

Does it remind you of any place you've been in the first years of your life?
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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I think many younger guys are in that boat. I’m middle aged and grew up with ‘manly-men’ role models, But I’ve noticed younger male coworkers seem less interested in women. T levels have dropped.
Yep, my own experience has been that it's usually the younger guys having the lower interest levels - I also think that growing up with so much readily available 'pron' will be having a negative effect....

Seriously... If I'd had 24/7 access to hardcore pronography in my late teens/early 20s.... I'd have probably jerked myself away to a shadow.... :rofl:


My Zoomer ex- told me I was, by far, the horniest guy she’d ever been with. She wasn’t high notch count. But all the other guys she’d been with were closer to her age.
I’ve gotten this too, blows my mind.
I've also had similar comments from several women who were 15 to 20 yrs younger than me....
I noticed a comment in another thread where a guy in mid 20s said he went soft DURING sex....
Yikes! - Even at my age I barely soften much at all even after finishing... If the woman is willing, I can still continue without needing any 'downtime', and won't come down from 'attention' until we're done for the night.
 

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Some of us are blessed with great (low) prolactin levels. It can, however be a burden sometimes when your woman cannot possibly handle more.

I’ve never understood some women’s inability to handle a good extended tussle, then there are those that go like energizer bunnies. There’s no correlation to age, fitness, or snugness or anything else I can figure out.
 
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