"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Cleared it with the mods! A thread I’ve wanted to do for years. Post your real life picture let the community help fix your looks!(completely optiona)

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I am not sure why you even say that, the dude looks like an eager puppy. No offense @EyeBRollin because you look like an otherwise masculine guy. I'd say for you man, try to have more photos taken outside with a nice coat on and give a more serious look. Yeah you will polarize but you will also come off as sexier.
Its cool thanks for the feedback. I stopped using that first photo after @cola suggestion long ago. 2nd photo worked great for me. I was getting daily matches on all apps back when I was on the market. The chicks were decently hot black girls too 6-7 range. Occasionally I would match with an 8. Professional photos are the key.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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It looks like you got your teeth whitened... If so, did you notice a difference with females?
I did not get them whitened. I just take good care of them.

@Jesse Pinkman there may be truth to what you are saying that I give off an “eager” vibe. Over the years chicks have commented that they did not expect me to have an “edge.” They expected a more of a nice guy. Which I am.. I just don’t act like a beta simp. Maybe it throws them off. But I’ve always gotten “he is better than expected” treatment.
 

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Yeah man, I mean it's not even your expression as opposed to the quality of the photo, it looks so generic with that background and all. I'd look to get what they call a lifestyle photographer and have a photo taken outdoors in the moment. Something that gives off the being social and having a life vibe, like this:


 

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I definitely get that “eager” vibe from the photos too.
It’s helpful, when getting pictures taken, to think in terms of energy flow. In the pictures you look like you’re receiving or looking for energy from an outside source. I found that if I think of projecting energy and masculinity outward, it does wonders for my photos.
 

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I'll play along. 47 or 48 in these pics. (49 in a few days)
Only differences are my hair is long enough to tie back now and have a few more tats including the
infamously ill advised neck tattoo. :rolleyes: We all know my personality is broken, so let's just keep to aesthetics. I'm
curious to know how other guys see me.
 

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“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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I'll play along. 47 or 48 in these pics. (49 in a few days)
Only differences are my hair is long enough to tie back now and have a few more tats including the
infamously ill advised neck tattoo. :rolleyes: We all know my personality is broken, so let's just keep to aesthetics. I'm
curious to know how other guys see me.
Lose the glasses. 2nd pic is the best for coffee shop type of girls but the far left might legit help you out in a beach town. I say stick with those styles but change the venue/settings. You guys all need to look into lifestyle photographers. For the second pic, I recommend having that exact style but take it in a coffee shop or some nice big Irish Bar (ideally at a booth). For the far left pic, I recommend doing it at a surfing store or perhaps at a beach.
 

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Lose the glasses. 2nd pic is the best for coffee shop type of girls but the far left might legit help you out in a beach town. I say stick with those styles but change the venue/settings. You guys all need to look into lifestyle photographers. For the second pic, I recommend having that exact style but take it in a coffee shop or some nice big Irish Bar (ideally at a booth). For the far left pic, I recommend doing it at a surfing store or perhaps at a beach.
Those are just some general pics, not the set I use on Tinder. I need the glasses to see my phone, but appreciate the tips. :up:
 

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I'll play along. 47 or 48 in these pics. (49 in a few days)
Only differences are my hair is long enough to tie back now and have a few more tats including the
infamously ill advised neck tattoo. :rolleyes: We all know my personality is broken, so let's just keep to aesthetics. I'm
curious to know how other guys see me.
The middle pic is dope.
 

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BUMP for a great, positive thread. New members should join in.

Here’s some shots of me, curious to here your guys’ thoughts and suggestions. 5’11 barefoot, 180 lbs, 19 y/o, benching 5x10 of 265.

 
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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BUMP for a great, positive thread. New members should join in.

Here’s some shots of me, curious to here your guys’ thoughts and suggestions. 5’11 barefoot, 180 lbs, 19 y/o, benching 5x10 of 265.

Lose the third pic. You look great in the other ones
 

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I guess I'll post mine

I don't have any shirtless photos, not even in a tank top...I wish I had taken a good beach photo last year when I was at my most ripped.

The only thing that I'm remotely self-conscious about is my teeth since they're off white. Once I can quit coffee I'll use my super high quality whitening kit that I haven't even opened...
 

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@CollegeMan22 @SargeMaximus and @FlexpertHamilton

You are all definitely slayer material. Not sure how a lot of you are doing now in terms of game but man, hook you all up with a pro photographer that specializes on dating app pics and you can all have 100+ likes on the major apps within a week. We have a lot of handsome dudes on this forum (no homo).
 

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This was such a good thread figured I bump. Since COVID I lost 10 lbs until November when I built my home gym. I gained it all back plus about 3-5 lbs more or so. I’m about 170 now. These are a couple pics I just took that I’m using for online dating. I’m getting a lot more messages now. Enough chicks are messaging me first now I just sit back and let it ride. Still mostly getting girls in the 6-7 range. The 8s message back but still act like they’re no good. Lol

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Somehow your pics take me back to my days of watching porn. I feel like you look like every other interracial porn actor out there lol.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Somehow your pics take me back to my days of watching porn. I feel like you look like every other interracial porn actor out there lol.
Get to work Jesse.
 

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@CollegeMan22 @SargeMaximus and @FlexpertHamilton

You are all definitely slayer material. Not sure how a lot of you are doing now in terms of game but man, hook you all up with a pro photographer that specializes on dating app pics and you can all have 100+ likes on the major apps within a week. We have a lot of handsome dudes on this forum (no homo).
How to find one that isn’t a scam? I got professional pics years ago but they didn’t seem to work. I stayed a virgin that year
 

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You look up lifestyle photographer in your area and then check their IG account, all good ones will have an IG account displaying their work.
Cool but how to know when I found one that is making pics that will help vs just professional looking pics?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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