"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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mrgoodstuff

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Naturally passive doesn't mean you can't make out with women, it just means that's ur nature.
My unmodified nature was "laid back", it was attractive to them though, because I had confidence. As an adult I had to become more proactive and more assertive, "laid back" just won't get many things done. I enjoy hustling hard and earning my way forward.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Marriage isn't about the woman; it's about securing YOUR immortality. You let her stay, after the breeding is done, for cooking, cleaning, and babysitting services...and because you might've grown attached to her, and because the kids probably have, too.
I can hear the divorce lawyers rubbing their hands together from across the Atlantic and Mediterranean.

Don't do it.
 

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You're qualifying yourself to an online astrologist.
It's the same as when u r profiling a bunch of dogs, you'd automatically know which one is the dominant dog and which are the passive dogs.

Does this make you an astrologist for dogs? No.

It's just that ur sense of perception has only reached the level of dogs and when it has surpassed that level into profiling more intelligent beings like humans, you'd know I'm right.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Agreed. It’s an irrational fear but many men, otherwise alpha men in some examples I know personally have this fear.

It’s a head scratcher until you realize these are men who front well but harbor deep insecurities.

In some ways men are the more companionship driven gender, especially as the wall approaches. You young guys don’t see that much but as men hit their 50s? It’s a thing, trust me.
All I know is I don't mind the thought of dying alone. I cherish the thought of such a peaceful deathbed.
 

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Who told you I'm at dog level? You flatter me, Spaz, you're too nice. I'm not even past iguanas, but they're cool and we all have fun. Hey, that makes me the Lizard King.
And you're a passive man too, just like goodstuff but the opposite of his personality.

He's expressive whilst you're a quite one, a natural born thinker who struggles to understand human emotions, often being bullied in school because of ur nerd-ness, the intellectual.

No matter how you both perceived urselfs as being dominant, it falls way below one that's naturally born with it and no matter how you try to act it out, it will always comes off as being fake.
 

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And you're a passive man too, just like goodstuff but the opposite of his personality.

He's expressive whilst you're a quite one, a natural born thinker who struggles to understand human emotions, often being bullied in school because of ur nerd-ness, the intellectual.

No matter how you both perceived urselfs as being dominant, it falls way below one that's naturally born with it and no matter how you try to act it out, it will always comes off as being fake.
Spaz you know nothing about me. I'm not passive. I'm a proactive person who goes after what he wants. But i won't chase women because it's pointless.
 

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Spaz you know nothing about me. I'm not passive. I'm a proactive person who goes after what he wants. But i won't chase women because it's pointless.
Being passive is a bad thing?

Thousands of geniuses has been born passive, did it make them any less greater?

Embrace who u r and don't deny it, that way you could fully realise ur potential.
 

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Being passive is a bad thing?

Thousands of geniuses has been born passive, did it make them any less greater?

Embrace who u r and don't deny it, that way you could fully realise ur potential.
I would have to back up so far to be passive. It's not happening. Just not there. I don't like to lay back.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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Cute. You have a vivid imagination, which is common among submissive types such as yourself who dream big to compensate for shortcomings. As is belief in pseudoscience. Keep up the star charting, we all enjoy it.
Who here doesn't know that u r an intellectual?

Do you wish to deny it?

And ALL intellectuals are born passive.
 

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I would have to back up so far to be passive. It's not happening. Just not there. I don't like to lay back.
And who here doesn't know that u r an expressive man? That you yearn for love? That you have lots of love to give out?

And All expressive man are born passive.
 

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And who here doesn't know that u r an expressive man? That you yearn for love? That you have lots of love to give out?

And All expressive man are born passive.
Still here with that expressive man talk, love ya Spaz :)
 

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The only reason to get married is to have steady poontang on tap.

Wait ...

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Now as comparison, @ShePays is born a dominant and he's a doer.

A doer is someone who basically thinks in black or white, right or wrong, he will find the fastest most efficient way of doing things - that's his natural born talent.

He'd be great as a soldier, as a surgeon, as a mechanic, as an engineer BUT he will NOT be naturally GREAT as an actor or a scientist.

Do you boys finally understand now?
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Was I wrong abt you?

Do you wish to deny it like they do?

BTW welcome back.
Nah everything was on point with me, so I spent this year correcting my weaknesses - I did well but you can't change who you ultimately are
 

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Back in the day, Kings had several mistresses and produced many children with different women.
Agreed. I was just looking into my ancestor Dagobert (I), Merovingian King of Francia:
The author of the Chronicle of Fredegar criticises the king for his loose morals in having "three queens almost simultaneously, as well as several concubines".[a][26] When rex Brittanorum Judicael came to Clichy to visit with Dagobert, he opted not to dine with him due to his misgivings with Dagobert's moral choices, instead dining with the king's referendary, St. Audoen.[27] Fredegar's chronicle names the three queens, Nanthild and the otherwise obscure Wulfegundis and Berchildis, but none of the concubines, stating that a full list of concubines would be too long. In 625/6 Dagobert married Gormatrude, a sister of his father's wife Sichilde; but the marriage was childless. After divorcing Gormatrude in 629/30 he made Nanthild, a Saxon servant (puella) from his personal entourage, his new queen.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dagobert_I#cite_note-29 She gave birth to Clovis II (b. 634/5) later king of Neustria and Burgundy. Shortly after his marriage to Nanthild, he took a girl called Ragnetrude to his bed, who gave birth to his youngest son, Sigebert III (b. 630/1) later king of Austrasia.[c]
So far, I have discovered that I am a descendant of children of Dagobert and both Nanthild & Ragentrude. :cool: I think I have few other half-cousin sanguinations from other king/emperors. I also have some half-cousin sanguinations from gals that remarried after being widowed. o_O And Dagobert had this beauty of a grandmother Fredegund:
Fredegunde , c. 545–597, Frankish queen. The mistress of King Chilperic I of Neustria, she became his wife after inducing him to murder his wife Galswintha (567). Fredegunde and Brunhilda, Galswintha's sister and wife of King Sigebert I of Austrasia, were among the leading figures in the long war (561–613) between the Frankish kingdoms of Neustria and Austrasia. Fredegunde procured the deaths of Sigebert I and of her own stepchildren. After Chilperic's murder (584) she acted as regent for her son Clotaire II.
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And who here doesn't know that u r an expressive man? That you yearn for love? That you have lots of love to give out?

And All expressive man are born passive.
Love will put wind in my sails and add to the motion i have. Whereas fighting and having women play games and compete slows me down and puts my focus on things i don't care about at the time.
 

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Love will put wind in my sails and add to the motion i have. Whereas fighting and having women play games and compete slows me down and puts my focus on things i don't care about at the time.
Yes i think its better for certain things. Not as good for others.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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