“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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The *No Contact* Challenge! ( Read this if you just got dumped)

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You are still HUNDREDS of thousands ahead my friend. Unless you want kids, I would think long and hard about EVER getting married.
Divorce is an expensive proposition. As well as alimony and child support. You’ll be poor lol supporting some Arby’s sandwich bytch who cheated on you and monkey branches off to another dude.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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This girl popped in and out of my life for the past year. We never were official but I met her family and her best friend. It was weird because this girl didn’t meet my friends not a single time, even though I tried to set up meetings. It was weird, she never came to my house either. But she’d come and go, for instance we’d hangout for 2-3 months regularly and talk every other day and then she’d get distant for a couple weeks, but this distance kept getting longer and longer each time I noticed. She came around for the final time around Halloween and we made it through New Years. I haven’t seen or spoken to her since Jan 15, this is the longest we’ve gone without seeing each other or talking to each other. I asked her to hangout the weekend after Jan 15 but she said “we might can do something”, never heard a word and still haven’t. So I was smart enough to know not to chase and go no contact permanently because I didn’t want to do this anymore of her walking in and out of my life. Blocked and deleted her number. Oh this is day 13 or 14 I think. Dunno if she’s reached out or not since she’s blocked
 

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Nothing lost. If she really wants to see you she will knock on your door
She has never been to my house, doesn’t know where I live lol
 

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It's been 4 and 1/2 months since we broke up, she monkey branch back to an ex husband. The sex was amazing but she was starting to get disrespectful and I put her in her place which she didn't like and monkey branch back to her ex who she divorced to be with me. She tried to commit suicide 3 weeks after the breakup I was only notified because I was still on the call list at the time. She blocked me on everything for first 2 months. Then unblocked me on facebook and liked a photo of mine in the middle of the night. I can only assume she looks at my facebook while her ex husband is away at work. Just like week recommend friends at on instagram it looks like she unblocked me on instagram. I know I should have but I looked at her instagram, she went and made it public I think she wanted me to see everything.

Apparently she is on some 2 month vacation in europe and north africa with her 2 year old son that her husband is paying for while he stay back in the states and works. 90% of her posts are about being a happy family and so happy she is with her ex husband. It is all bull**** and lies and I can see that, I feel sorry for her. I know she depressed I see it in some of her photos, she is not smiling. Apparently she also made her facebook public aswell I assume because she wants me to see it. Deep down I know she will contact me in the future after the money runs out or she gets into another fight with her ex husband. I'm just so far gone and have my own problems never a chance between us ever again.

Since then though I got an EX (before the last one) of mine pregnant and have been having an on again off again thing going. She finally just shut me down saying she isn't attracted and there is no spark and we are just friends having a baby. I decided to take a job a couple hours away and she is losing her mind melting down.
 

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It's been 4 and 1/2 months since we broke up, she monkey branch back to an ex husband. The sex was amazing but she was starting to get disrespectful and I put her in her place which she didn't like and monkey branch back to her ex who she divorced to be with me. She tried to commit suicide 3 weeks after the breakup I was only notified because I was still on the call list at the time. She blocked me on everything for first 2 months. Then unblocked me on facebook and liked a photo of mine in the middle of the night. I can only assume she looks at my facebook while her ex husband is away at work. Just like week recommend friends at on instagram it looks like she unblocked me on instagram. I know I should have but I looked at her instagram, she went and made it public I think she wanted me to see everything.

Apparently she is on some 2 month vacation in europe and north africa with her 2 year old son that her husband is paying for while he stay back in the states and works. 90% of her posts are about being a happy family and so happy she is with her ex husband. It is all bull**** and lies and I can see that, I feel sorry for her. I know she depressed I see it in some of her photos, she is not smiling. Apparently she also made her facebook public aswell I assume because she wants me to see it. Deep down I know she will contact me in the future after the money runs out or she gets into another fight with her ex husband. I'm just so far gone and have my own problems never a chance between us ever again.

Since then though I got an EX (before the last one) of mine pregnant and have been having an on again off again thing going. She finally just shut me down saying she isn't attracted and there is no spark and we are just friends having a baby. I decided to take a job a couple hours away and she is losing her mind melting down.
Uh oh, what a mess. All i can say is that women who put in an effort to make it look like they're happy family now on social media are usually the opposite trying to tell themselves something. Truly happy families don't need to show it, just like wealthy people don't have an urge to show off their riches. She sounds like a trainwreck tbh, stay away for your own sanity.
Also interesting that her ex-husband took her back just like that, they probably wont last.
 

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Bad move. Get a DNA test so you know how badly this is going to fvck up your life.

Maybe it isn't yours
I got DNA test at 14 weeks they are now able to take some of the mother's blood and filter the babies blood non invasive. It cost me around 900 dollars and also gave us the gender which thank god it's a baby boy.
 

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Around day 73. Still think about her a lot not going to lie, but this is is the second time we broke up and for good. Neither of us have uttered a word or seen each other since which I prefer. We share a ton of mutual friends. I’ve only spoken about the breakup to my inner circle within inner circle (people we do not share friends with by I trust to be tight lipped). Literally have dropped off the face of the earth in her world. I haven’t even bought up the breakup to our mutual friends because I already know they’re aware, no need to conversate over a dead horse. I’ll let her have to explain to everyone lol. I have been happy being alone for the past month and have been focusing on myself.
 

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Have not unfollowed or unblocked her or any of that (I have not stalked her btw).Just going about my life like the relationship never happened lol I feel this has been a good approach for me, any thoughts?
 

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All i can say is that women who put in an effort to make it look like they're happy family now on social media are usually the opposite trying to tell themselves something.She sounds like a trainwreck tbh, stay away for your own sanity.
Also interesting that her ex-husband took her back just like that, they probably wont last.
I feel bad for him to be honest, after we broke up I noticed her gmail was logged into my laptop I checked her history (low move I should have just logged her out and moved on) I found every night, she would look at my facebook and then go watch porn for 1-2 hours. I have since logged out as it was unhealthy of me to be checking in on her and I need to move on etc etc...

So it is yours.
How did this happen?
With 14 forms of birth control? Not trying to be a d!ckkkkk here...…...
It most certainly mine.
I didn't see the signs, 3 weeks after I was broken up she was joking around about having a baby on text. Couple of weeks later I took her out for a night in the city for being such a good friend we ended up having a few drinks and made out. I figured I was safe to get totally drunk because she has 2 kids at home and she is not going to wake them to sex. Anyways we get back to her place and the kids are gone she had her mother grab them for the weekend. She strips down naked and begging me for sex, I put the only condom I have on. She asks me to take it off because it ruins all the feelings, comes over and rips the condom off throws it in the trash. Next thing I know I'm banging her and she begging me to put a baby inside her. I was pretty drunk rebounding and not thinking straight.
 

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Have not unfollowed or unblocked her or any of that (I have not stalked her btw).Just going about my life like the relationship never happened lol I feel this has been a good approach for me, any thoughts?
Your head seems to be at a good place, just don't go out of your way to avoid her. That also sends a message. Indifference and living well is the best approach.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

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I feel bad for him to be honest, after we broke up I noticed her gmail was logged into my laptop I checked her history (low move I should have just logged her out and moved on) I found every night, she would look at my facebook and then go watch porn for 1-2 hours. I have since logged out as it was unhealthy of me to be checking in on her and I need to move on etc etc...



It most certainly mine.
I didn't see the signs, 3 weeks after I was broken up she was joking around about having a baby on text. Couple of weeks later I took her out for a night in the city for being such a good friend we ended up having a few drinks and made out. I figured I was safe to get totally drunk because she has 2 kids at home and she is not going to wake them to sex. Anyways we get back to her place and the kids are gone she had her mother grab them for the weekend. She strips down naked and begging me for sex, I put the only condom I have on. She asks me to take it off because it ruins all the feelings, comes over and rips the condom off throws it in the trash. Next thing I know I'm banging her and she begging me to put a baby inside her. I was pretty drunk rebounding and not thinking straight.
Oh jesus, already had 2 kids. Really wanted another one and used you for it. Alcohol is never an excuse sir. Women sooner or later tell you everything you need to know if you just observe and listen to them and their actions. She literally told you she wanted a baby over text and executed the plan at the first opportunity.
 
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Your head seems to be at a good place, just don't go out of your way to avoid her. That also sends a message. Indifference and living well is the best approach.
I hear ya, I’m kinda aware it sends a message but I don’t want to go to the same place as her because I just feel it could have the potential to ruin my night considering I don’t know how I’d feel if I ran into her socially.
 

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Oh jesus, already had 2 kids. Really wanted another one and used you for it. Alcohol is never an excuse sir. Women sooner or later tell you everything you need to know if you just observe and listen to them and their actions. She literally told you she wanted a baby over text and executed the plan at the first opportunity.
Yea I was stupid and didn't see it and it was right in front of me. I knew she wanted to **** but I didn't think it would go this far, I been dating other girls to keep me from getting too emotional trapped to her.

I don't know what to say to this. You made a $250,000 mistake.
Yup. I tried to salvage it by pushing a relationship but she didn't want that and now I'm moving on and she doesn't want that either, trying to control me. It is only going to end up badly for her, I hate that whole attitude of have their cake and eat it too it just doesn't work out that way.
 
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It's been about 3 weeks or so. I've moved on in the true sense of the word. Zero interest in her at all. Yeah I am polite with her at evening class, but I ignore her when it comes to her wanting my attention. She was bit pissed too lol. Zero ****s given now.
 

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I made a post in this thread quite some time ago but there has been an update since then .Well that was few months ago but just another proof why no contact works .
day 370 of no contact. I blocked her on every way possible and none of us tried to come into contact during this time. I had no idea if she was still “ alive” .
Received an unknown phone call early in the morning. Woke me up and responded.

It was her . She asked me how i was doing . I responded friendly as i would with every stranger i would meet .Lucky for her i was in the area when she called (haven’t been there for 10 months as i live in a different country) She offered to meet for a cafe and i agreed.We met, she was different, shorter hair , more calm and serious. She told me that what i said during our last talk was very mean and bad but it made her reconsider her point of view and her habits. I said whatever i said back then i ain’t taking back cause i was dead serious and I’m almost always honest . Anyway she offered to meet again but i told her I’m seeing someone else and that I have also changed since then and i don’t want anything further with her . She seemed to be in shock but i couldn’t care less . I felt that one hard back then when we split and I’m not intending to go through something similar anyway sooner or later.

There’s been another girl that i was seeing a bit seriously.We haven’t met since 3 weeks . I’m in no contact with her since the last time we met but she keeps on initiating and i can’t resist the urge to talk with her . Well the only thing we do when we talk is fighting. For some reason i can’t resist and humiliate her every single time we talk cause she’s quite provocative . Anyway last time we talked was 2 days ago .The last she told she found a new boyfriend and that she’s been cool with him . I don’t know if i have to believe her or not . Anyway she texted me early in the morning and we started fighting as soon as she first texted .Kept on fighting,told heri don’t want to talk with her again and she should never text me ever again . Well she kept on texting. Didn’t reapond the first time . She texted again . I didn’t respond again . Then late at night she texted me again and then i responded . Told her she should never text me again cause she has new bf to care about and not me . She said she never cared for me and i said good , since you don’t care then stop texting me . She kept on texting me and i just responded with have a good nicht and she didn’t respond further .

Anyway , I’m in no contact for 2 days . I don’t feel anything for her . I just feel rage that she found someone else so soon . I know whichever is the other guy , he’s no way better than me and i don’t want to be sounded ****y but there are few guy’s my age in her area to be better than me and they already taken . It’s her bad and I’m sure she knows that .She said she wanted supposedly something serious so i was serious with her but i got played . Terrible mistake . Hopefully I’m still young and there are still lots of things to learn .
 

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Over seven months that I haven't seen or heard from her.

The last two weeks my anger regarding her and this ugly breakup seemed to disappear.
I didn't like it first, but meanwhile I feel very released and it's great to let go some of that baggage.

I met with a buddy who works with her for a few beer last night and he told me she wanted to give him a box with some of my belongings I left. Don't miss anything and I couldn't care less, but I'll see what it is, but I've some mixed feelings about this.

I got curious and asked how she's doing.
He said she got in a rebound about two months after our breakup. The new guy is just as emotional abusive as her. Controlling, insecure, jealous. She hasn't learned a bit from our breakup. So like attracts like I think...
Also she has gained a good amount of weight, developed acne and looks unkempt with greasy hair. He straight told me "bro, she looks un****able".
When she was with me she always looked about herself, was very clean and groomed, adopted my habits of working out and eating a healthy diet. Didn't expect to hear that.

However, letting go of that anger feels like a good step in healing.
Hearing from her hasn't fazed me, gave me some kind of satisfaction to hear that I took a better path. I even feel kind of sorry for her.

I love my life, still got some work to do.
 

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Clearly her life isn't going great. I would imagine she has developed an addiction as well, to let herself go like this.
She was smoking ever since i knew her, in the last months of our relationship she became a really heavy smoker. She also liked to drink, even if she cut back a lot in the four years we were together, sometimes she lost control and blacked out.
In the last two months we were together she went off the pill, perhaps she's going through hormonal changes.

Who broke up with who?
She turned our relationship in an on/off thing. She broke up four times in one month, trying to gain control. Two times she came back on her own, two times her sister told me she's hurting a lot and wants me to come back, and I did two times - bad mistake.
The fifth and final breakup was my decision. That was the last day I saw her. Till today...

I forgot a key at my buddies flat yesterday and because I needed it for work I had to drive to their company two hours ago.
Parked my car few streets away, so nobody can see me and met with my buddy. I told him straight that I doesn't feel comfortable... We were sitting in the car for a few minutes talking and suddenly I saw her passing my car with a few of her coworkers. She looked at me, waved with her hand and came to the drivers door, reached to the door pull. But I was faster and only let the window down. We greeted unexpected friendly. She was little bit nervous, I just smiled friendly and to my surpise I was little bit nervous, too but acted really calm.

Asked each other "how you are" "good"...
She: "I have found some stuff from you. Just books and some other stuff, do you want it?"
Me: "yeah, he told me. I don't miss anything, but just give it to him and I get it when I visit him"
She: "Ok"
Me: "I found a book from you in my boxes, too. Should I give it to him, so he can bring it for you?"
She: "No, I don't need it anymore."
Me smirking: "Ok, bye."
She: "Bye..."

Little bit awkward nonsense... I'm sure I noticed she was disappointed, that I didn't act out of character. One of her coworkers, who's a good friend of her and also knows me for years, turned red like a tomato.

Damn, my buddy didn't lie... She had a thick jacket, so I couldn't notice any more weight at her than I am used to, but her hair were greasy, her whole face full of acne and scars everywhere from scratching the pimples. I was shocked. She looked aged a few years and I wasn't able to see the beautiful woman I know for more than five years. If I met her like this, I never had made a move on her.
I can't tell that she looked happy. She noticed, that I observed her face during our conversation - I wasn't able to hide.

I can't feel anything than pity for her right now.

What I heard also the last night, she tried to run mind games over mutual friends. Everyone was told by me to don't let me know of anything if she reaches out. Thankfully, they managed to stay silent the whole time.

Strange that this happens all, right after I'm able to let go of my anger. Two weeks ago I think I wouldn't have been able to be confronted with her.

@Mauser96 I will send you a PM.
 
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NC - Day 4

This girl said something that I think was disrespectful. I told her not to talk to me like that but in a fun way she said "I will" (She was drunk). To this I did not talk to her the entire time we were along spend the time watching football. After I was done, i asked the waiter to pack rest of the stuff and I started moving to which she joined and i dropped her home and I left. Din't speck to her since then.

She's about 8 years younger to me. Been on NC before as well for a week wherein she reeled me in.

Just received a text few mins back saying "You have until tonight to text or call me, if you don't there is no coming back". She had told me during the last NC too that if next time you disappear that is the last time its the end.

What do you'll think?
 

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Ultimatums and threats never work, especially coming from a weak position. She can't handle the fact that you're not talking to her, it feels like rejection which is something women can't stand so she's trying the desperate way to get her control back.

This girl said something that I think was disrespectful. I told her not to talk to me like that but in a fun way she said "I will" (She was drunk).
Should have walked away right there or thrown her out if it was truly disrespectful. Removing your attention is good maintainance but here i take it as you wouldn't stand up for yourself when she's giving you an attitude, since you went silent but still stayed to watch the game and brought her home afterwards.

Been on NC before as well for a week wherein she reeled me in.
Here is the heart of the problem. She reeled you back in, meaning you two broke up and you took her back? Unfortunately women lose respect for you when you do and sh1t like this start to happen more frequently. Which is also one reason why this forum teaches not to go back to an ex.

Anyway, you don't cave in and follow her lead. She did something disrespectful in your eyes, she also needs to know that's why you're silent and the only way she wouldn't know that is if she was so drunk that night that she doesn't remember anything from what happend.
If she still could walk straight she remembers and knows exactly what she did and why you're silent, which is where i would remain and focus on other plates. She'll probably come around sooner or later with a more humble tone. If not, it's not a loss really.
 
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