"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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A crush on me....even me huh?

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I've come here so try and get advice on how to get the creatures (women) to hate me at least a little less. But more importantly, to pacify my intense hate for them. Especially since, even me, I've had some measure of interaction with them that were positive.

My top interactions? They wanted to get with me and it was painfully obvious...Some of the signs I was getting were dead give aways...
1. 4 years ago: One of the creatures created an empty OkCupid with small clues as to who it was (I knew it was her, there was no way to get that wrong) JUST to ask me if I had an "fb"... I responded by telling her I didn't know what she meant by "fb" an didn't hear from her since. -- If you're curious she was a co-worker from a job.--
2. 5 or 6 years ago: One of the creatures and a couple other friends were in a van chatting. her hand was on my lap. Later through out the ride she offered me (only me) to come inside with her cuz she wanted to show me her collection of RPGs after hearing I was a fan. I rejected the offer cuz another friend had a crush on her and wanted to respect that.
3. Back in high school (13 years ago): Probably the hottest girl in my class had gone through a break up. She knew I always liked her. She straight up ASKED ME OUT and I said no because her "lifestyle" I claimed... just wasn't for me.

These are just 3 out of many examples of opportunities I've botched with these creatures that tells me a few things about myself.
1. I DO have something in me that works. I have no idea what it is and I don't control it in the slightest. I merely know it's there.
2. The second I realize she is interested in me is the second I screw it up. I just don't know how to respond these creatures when I get not just a "sign" but in these cases...A dead give away! And so each time I reject them out of fear that if I accept, something will go wrong.

And now here I am...32 years old and never had a girlfriend. Or an "fb" for that matter. But still. I need to gain some control over whatever it is that I have that IS working and make it under my command, providing it's still there. What do you guys think?
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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Women are way too overated. You're better off finding a fullfilling career or hobby.
 

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As for hobbies...I am an artist and I'm writing a book about story-boarding. That counts I hope?
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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As for hobbies...I am an artist and I'm writing a book about story-boarding. That counts I hope?
Story boarding? Like what producers use to plot movies?
 

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I've come here so try and get advice on how to get the creatures (women) to hate me at least a little less. But more importantly, to pacify my intense hate for them.
Women can be difficult, but it seems to me a good place to start would be to stop thinking of them as creatures, and realize that (like it or not) they are human beings like the rest of us. I'd also guess that this "intense hate" you have for them is really hatred that you actually hold for yourself, since apparently they are not responding to you in the way that you would like. You're blaming them for your own failures.
 

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Women can be difficult, but it seems to me a good place to start would be to stop thinking of them as creatures, and realize that (like it or not) they are human beings like the rest of us. I'd also guess that this "intense hate" you have for them is really hatred that you actually hold for yourself, since apparently they are not responding to you in the way that you would like. You're blaming them for your own failures.
The "creatures" thing is just for fun. I don't hate myself. But I DO understand what you are saying. The point of this post is that I need to locate the thing I have and make it sparkle a tad. It's true I rarely get along with women. But when it happens I appreciate it. As for the intense hate...It's complex. I'm working on it.
 

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Sounds like you've just got plain old fear. You need to just keep pushing yourself as far as you can with each interaction and keep being rejected until you just don't care anymore. Most phobias are treated with immersion therapy and it's by far the best way to get over your fear of women. The more you interact with them and intentionally look for their flaws, the more you see them as ordinary people. It's funny because most blue pill people would look at that statement and assume men view women as lesser, but often the problem with blue pill guys is the opposite. They pedestalize them as if they'd be lucky to be near them! Even the hottest woman on earth sh1ts and snores. You need to see them as at your level.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Sounds like you've just got plain old fear. You need to just keep pushing yourself as far as you can with each interaction and keep being rejected until you just don't care anymore. Most phobias are treated with immersion therapy and it's by far the best way to get over your fear of women. The more you interact with them and intentionally look for their flaws, the more you see them as ordinary people. It's funny because most blue pill people would look at that statement and assume men view women as lesser, but often the problem with blue pill guys is the opposite. They pedestalize them as if they'd be lucky to be near them! Even the hottest woman on earth sh1ts and snores. You need to see them as at your level.
You think so?...Hmm.. It feels like that could be it. I kind of like the idea of it being that simple. Because then my approach to fixing it can simplify as well. Thank you so much for your feedback. I'm very grateful.
 

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All your examples are a long time ago... So none of that is relevant. But to answer your questions:

1. The reason chicks were (maybe they still are but none of your examples were recent) attracted to you is because you did not care. Humans, not just chicks are attracted to things that are difficult to attain. However, for dudes it's pretty easy to figure out what chicks are going to be hard to game, because you just have t look at them. If she is physically attractive, she is in demand. With chicks, it's not so easy, to determine if a dude is worth her time, she can not only evaluate looks, she has to dig below the surface... what causes her to do this is your behavior. If you act like you have value, especially if you have other chicks floating around you, she will assume you do and she will chase you, until you prove otherwise.

2. Well, this is actually pretty easy. All chicks are the same, when they put themselves in your orbit make a date and try to seduce them. You have not shared enough info to even make a guess at why you do this. But I suspect you know why, so just try and put that behind you.
 

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All your examples are a long time ago... So none of that is relevant. But to answer your questions:

1. The reason chicks were (maybe they still are but none of your examples were recent) attracted to you is because you did not care. Humans, not just chicks are attracted to things that are difficult to attain. However, for dudes it's pretty easy to figure out what chicks are going to be hard to game, because you just have t look at them. If she is physically attractive, she is in demand. With chicks, it's not so easy, to determine if a dude is worth her time, she can not only evaluate looks, she has to dig below the surface... what causes her to do this is your behavior. If you act like you have value, especially if you have other chicks floating around you, she will assume you do and she will chase you, until you prove otherwise.

2. Well, this is actually pretty easy. All chicks are the same, when they put themselves in your orbit make a date and try to seduce them. You have not shared enough info to even make a guess at why you do this. But I suspect you know why, so just try and put that behind you.
Thank you for your feedback. It's greatly appreciated.
 
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