"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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She wished me happy birthday after 6 months of no contact

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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im not going to break no contact, unless she messages me something worthy of a response. But thats one popular belief that I find online which I dont understand-- "its meaningless." Is she just a robot who wishes anybody and everybody happy birthday regardless of the fact that they're on non-speaking terms?
If you listened to Corey Wayne more you would know he says "When a woman contacts you then she is creating an opportunity for a date. Ask her when she is available. Hang out, have fun, hook up."
 

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After 6 months, you are (we assume for the love of God) over her, so it can't hurt to try again. Relationship dynamics change every 3 months (especially if your birthday is around now) so don't play any games. You might even just come clean and tell her you had feelings for her before. Here is where that romantic stuff works if she ever had any feelings for you.
At this point, you're just trolling with beta advice like this.
 

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At this point, you're just trolling with beta advice like this.
You never got a girl back?

I've never had one forth.

What does he have to lose by texting her? Jesus he could have found out 6 hours ago if we weren't coddling his inner wuss here in droves.
 

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What does he have to f*cking lose by texting her? Jesus he could have found out 6 hours ago if we weren't coddling his inner wuss here in droves.
His dignity, self respect and sanity.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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OP, delete the text and ignore.

At this point, you should even have her blocked. You are nothing but a source of validation and ego boost to her. At best, a backup option.

Read that over and over and let it sink in.
 

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but whats the point? I can see her being cold and ruthless like that if I mistreated her, but I didnt. I acted like a beta sure, but I never mistreated her to where she would want her to do something vengeful like that
We're you fvcking this chick or not?

If you were fvcking I would respond back with "Thanks friend ". Then be quiet. Don't respond to anything unless she asks to hang out.

If you weren't fvcking her, she obviously had you on a string and I wouldn't advise doing anything besides sending "I don't recognize the number. Who is this?"
 

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His dignity, self respect and sanity.
That's long gone already. Hence, I say he has nothing to lose. This isn't dump echo 6 months later. This is her saying "I remember you and now that Jeff slept with my best friend, I'm ready".
 

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6 months later...

Who are you???
 

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It sounds like he might still be in love with her. Or maybe it's actually the woman posing as the man whose birthday she remembered?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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never ever try and go back to a woman, it never works and will only sacrifice your pride and embarass you.

if you had any chance of banging her, then you certainly have the game to bang a new woman, so do that instead
 

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im not going to break no contact, unless she messages me something worthy of a response. But thats one popular belief that I find online which I dont understand-- "its meaningless." Is she just a robot who wishes anybody and everybody happy birthday regardless of the fact that they're on non-speaking terms?
if she were a man she'd be doing it to see if she can still fvck you.

since she's a woman she's doing it to feed your attention to her ego.

but whats the point? I can see her being cold and ruthless like that if I mistreated her, but I didnt. I acted like a beta sure, but I never mistreated her to where she would want her to do something vengeful like that
you know how the praying mantis females murder the males when they're done mating? ditto with black widow spiders?

yeah... human females are only marginally more kind when they're done with you
 

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OP, delete the text and ignore.

At this point, you should even have her blocked. You are nothing but a source of validation and ego boost to her. At best, a backup option.

Read that over and over and let it sink in.
Not talking to her for months and then her wishing me happy birthday makes me an ego boost for her?
 

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if she were a man she'd be doing it to see if she can still fvck you.

since she's a woman she's doing it to feed your attention to her ego.



you know how the praying mantis females murder the males when they're done mating? ditto with black widow spiders?

yeah... human females are only marginally more kind when they're done with you
Thats an interesting theory. But a happy birthday several months later doesnt quite rank up to being "marginally more kind"
 

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Not talking to her for months and then her wishing me happy birthday makes me an ego boost for her?
Thats an interesting theory. But a happy birthday several months later doesnt quite rank up to being "marginally more kind"
this is the part where you rationalize it as being your chance.

next comes the part where you rush head first into an obvious trap

after that comes crushing disappointment

does that sound like fun?

if not, veer off the path right now.

though tbh what's most likely going to happen is that if you respond, whatever you respond with will lead to a short conversation that goes nowhere or be ignored, which is relatively minor but still unpleasant
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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heheh I Just had a POFer from 2 years ago wish me a merry xmas on xmas day. I responded, wished him well. He asked what I was up to, i told him and asked what he was up to. He told me. I sadi that sounded great.
The end
He was fishing. he was hoping I would indicate some level of interest, offer to get together, get coffee.

It's nice that she went out of her way to wish you a happy birthday. She's a nice person. That's what the text means. That she is a person who happened to remember your birthday and decided to be nice and wish you a HB.

If you want to see if she's interested, respond and ask her to chill.
If you dont care about it all then dont respond, or respond and say 'thanks' and leave it alone

she said exactly what she said. "Happy Birthday" There could be a thousand different motivations for saying this, a thousand. For the love of gawd, STOP over analyzing it. chicks do that. dont be a chick.
 
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Not talking to her for months and then her wishing me happy birthday makes me an ego boost for her?
No. Responding to her makes you an ego boost to her.
 
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If you listened to Corey Wayne more you would know he says "When a woman contacts you then she is creating an opportunity for a date. Ask her when she is available. Hang out, have fun, hook up."
I'm convinced you are actually "Coach" Corey Wayne yourself, or his boyfriend. Go away Corey/Corey's BFF - we're not buying $90 e-books today.

"Hang out, have fun, hook up."

Great advice, coach. Couldn't have figured that one out on my own. Here's $1,000.

#CoreyWayneSucks
 
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Can't we all, just get along?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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