Would you date a girl who smokes cigarettes?

[Atom Smasher]

Just to play devil's advocate.... You believe that men should be King's of their world. How can one see himself as a king if he accepts leagues?

I’m not quite sure what you’re driving at but I’ve clawed my way to the upper leagues by taking the hammer and chisel to myself daily in order to sculpt the man I knew I could be.
I always pined away for and fantasized about women who were clearly out of my league because I had extraordinarily low social calibration. I was afraid of my own shadow. So although I had girlfriends who were in my league, I would fantasize about the upper echelon, thinking one day one would magically like me.
I believe that most average men fantasize about far above average women. The math just doesn’t work.

When a man claws himself up to higher levels through shear will and tenacity, he finds that more upper-echelon women start showing interest. In other words, his fantasy and reality start to converge.

 

[Atom Smasher]

I have good news!

Against air pollution? I have a solution for you. Never drive an automobile again. And also, never be a passenger in an automobile as well. The carcinogens emitted from one automobile Farrrr exceed that of a cigarette.

I'll consider kicking the smoking habit (for the environment) when you also put your money where your mouth is.

As to your analogy about smokers being too relaxed while driving, let's go there. If they were truly "impaired" then can you explain why smokers are not getting arrested for "driving while impaired?" Also, over fifty years ago, nearly half the population were smokers. How did they get to their destination? After all, if half the traffic back then were smokers (according to your logic) they'd all be driving at a snails pace.

Instead, I suspect that your traffic analogy is similar to the attitude of those that first owned cellphones. Back when cellphones were a luxury, some of the non-cellphone owners would raise a fuss over those that would talk (not text, but talk) while they were driving. Now that most people own a cellphone, we hear nothing about those that talk while driving.

Irony: A lot of the forum members here... . are affiliated with a political party - known for preaching "tolerance." I'm certainly not seeing this being put into practice. Sounds like a case of "Tolerance for me, but not for thee."

All smokers defend their habit with great tenacity. I am against the stink that invades my airspace. To most people it is an extremely foul odor, even to many if not most non-smokers.
It seems silly to argue about whether cigarette smoke is difficult to deal with or not. You as a smoker are completely habituated to it. For non-smokers, second-hand smoke irritates the nose, throat and lungs. I can also taste it on my tongue and feel a stinging sensation there.
I’m not going to stand here and apologize for hating a stench that seriously irritates my nose, throat, mouth and lungs.
Tell a pit bull owner that pit bulls are by nature aggressive, and they will jump all over you and say everything they can to demonize you and try to “prove” that you’re wrong. Ditto with smokers. In each case they have skin in the game and MUST justify their habit or their choices.
Logic is out the window for you because of your vested interest in justifying the use of your drug.
OF COURSE if 50% of people smoked while driving, then 50% would drive with that selfish, contented slowness, the “I’m the only one on the road that matters” style. If 100% smoked, then 100% would drive that way. In no way does that diminish my point that smokers slow down drastically and drive quite selfishly while smoking.
They are contented, relaxed, and self-absorbed, and I would contend that those who still smoke (with what we know today about the physical repercussions) usually have little regard for how they affect others.
I fully understand and expect that 99% of smokers will defend their habit by any means possible.

 

[NoSuave]

Yeah, but it would likely be short term.

 

[Smok1nAce]

It's 2022 anyone who's under 25 really is an idiot to smoke. If you under 50 smoking I would question you life choices and assume(but could be wrong) your a lowlife dirt bag, If your 50+ smoking I find it to be alright.

Im sure in 100 years it will be same for weed.

 

[B80]

All smokers defend their habit with great tenacity. I am against the stink that invades my airspace. To most people it is an extremely foul odor, even to many if not most non-smokers.
It seems silly to argue about whether cigarette smoke is difficult to deal with or not. You as a smoker are completely habituated to it. For non-smokers, second-hand smoke irritates the nose, throat and lungs. I can also taste it on my tongue and feel a stinging sensation there.
I’m not going to stand here and apologize for hating a stench that seriously irritates my nose, throat, mouth and lungs.
Tell a pit bull owner that pit bulls are by nature aggressive, and they will jump all over you and say everything they can to demonize you and try to “prove” that you’re wrong. Ditto with smokers. In each case they have skin in the game and MUST justify their habit or their choices.
Logic is out the window for you because of your vested interest in justifying the use of your drug.
OF COURSE if 50% of people smoked while driving, then 50% would drive with that selfish, contented slowness, the “I’m the only one on the road that matters” style. If 100% smoked, then 100% would drive that way. In no way does that diminish my point that smokers slow down drastically and drive quite selfishly while smoking.
They are contented, relaxed, and self-absorbed, and I would contend that those who still smoke (with what we know today about the physical repercussions) usually have little regard for how they affect others.
I fully understand and expect that 99% of smokers will defend their habit by any means possible.

You have this real thing about smokers and driving don;t you .

Never seen any evidence that it effects smokers driving to the extent you indicate. Do you not think it would have been outlawed if it did? I'm sure you've seen bad driving and as you've cruised past them or pulled up at the lights they;ve been smoking at times, but come on. I've seen bad drivers in equal measures smoking, not smoking, male/female, german cars, jap cars - whatever.

In the UK theres this stigma about 'German' car drivers being more aggressive, not using indicators or letting people out etc. I've seen people in Nissans, Vauxhalls, Audis, BMW's etc all driving like idiots, but when its a German car people tend to go 'typical Audi, BMW driver' etc, whereas when someone in Renault does it it's just look at that '****' or 'bad driver'. Seems similar with your views on smokers.

People being stressed racing around to get somewhere in a hurry, or in bad mental state due to something else, or just generally being dopey/bad drivers is at least as much of an issue. I'd say being amped up on caffeine is much more likely to turn a higher %into a menace on the roads compared to smokers.

 

[Atom Smasher]

It may not be readily apparent or noticeable. Next time you finally get by some slow poke, take a look. Chances are are you’ll see them smoking, especially immediately after work hours. They drive me nuts here in the NE at least.

 

[zekko]

I'm an ex-smoker, and I have to say there is no one worse about smoking than an ex-smoker. I absolutely cannot stand to be around it, can't stand the smell of it. I've been around some people who vape, and some of the flavored scents are actually pleasant. But would I date a girl who hadn't kicked that habit? I'm thinking probably not but I'm not sure it's a complete dealbreaker.

 

[B80]

It's 2022 anyone who's under 25 really is an idiot to smoke. If you under 50 smoking I would question you life choices and assume(but could be wrong) your a lowlife dirt bag, If your 50+ smoking I find it to be alright.

Im sure in 100 years it will be same for weed.

Initially thought yiur post was harsh, narrow minded, but tbh think I kind of agree. If I see a young woman smoking these days, think they're probably a bit of a slut, low class etc.

No doubt exceptions, but imagine it's a low % overall that aren't as mentioned above. Can't imagine many 'decent' girls would get into it these days.

I've had odd period of smoking and smoke when drinking (which is rare). Not that I'm condoning alcohol, drugs etc but at least alcohol and some drugs can make positive difference for small windows in terms of confidence, sociability, perception etc (although quite tge opposite for days afterwards) whereas cigarettes don't do anything like that. It's just a bad habit, although can be enjoyable at times.

 

[zekko]

It's 2022 anyone who's under 25 really is an idiot to smoke. If you under 50 smoking I would question you life choices and assume(but could be wrong) your a lowlife dirt bag, If your 50+ smoking I find it to be alright.

I get your point because people are more aware of their health choices today. But I still kind of think it might be the opposite.
A young person is going to experiment, try different things, and make mistakes. By age 50 you should have figured things out, and shouldn't be smoking. Especially since people that age are prime candidates for cancer.

Of course, you hear about those rare 100 year old people who smoked all their lives. Not sure how that works out, they must be genetic freaks.

 

[pipeman84]

I smoke cigars and pipes but I wouldn't date a girl who smokes cigarettes. It doesn't really have to do with health concerns ( I'm mostly interested that she has eating, exercising and sleeping on point) or smell (that's a hygiene matter). No guys, the issue I have with girls smoking cigarettes is that it's a marker for a more masculine girl and possibly for being promiscuous/ 'a bad girl'. I first became aware of this in high school...during breaks some of the cool guys and 'cool'/party girls would congregate and smoke...none of the 'good girls' would smoke. I've been keeping a tab on this and all the women that continued to smoke have turned out to exhibit masculine traits.

 

[corrector]

Nope. Can't stand the smell of cigarettes.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Only one that does so rarely and it doesn't effect the way she smells or the way her house/car/breath smells.