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Would you date a girl who smokes cigarettes?

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This thread has become hilarious - how could a simple question about whether you'd date a girl who smokes degenerate into discussions about men who are against smoking being less manly, women who smoke having mental issues and people who smoke drive slower? Lol.
Just to develop this further, do you know who was the first government to have an anti smoking campaign?

1930s Germany. NAZis

just saying....the NAZIs were actually fervent anti smokers.
 

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Just to develop this further, do you know who was the first government to have an anti smoking campaign?

1930s Germany. NAZis

just saying....the NAZIs were actually fervent anti smokers.
:D

Good work. Probably the best introduction of Nazi's I've encountered in decades on the internet

 

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former smoker.

grew up in a world where everyone smokes.

I take your points on the smell etc, but I disagree on driving. Nicotine is a stimulant by the way, not a tranquilliser.
This would be apparent if you’d tried nicotine, it makes your heart race.

Personally, I hate the smell of tuna. It doesn’t give me the right to stop people ordering tuna in a restaurant. The “health” line is just a way to get it through, you have no risk from passive smoke over and above petrol fumes.

agree to disagree.
I think that you disagree on driving because you haven't noticed the phenomenon. It's something I've noticed most of my adult life. The first thing smokers do when anxious is light up. Drivers after a hard day at work light up when driving home. We can speculate on the oral thing and all sorts of reasons why cigarettes relax smokers, but the bottom line is that smoking calms the nerves of those who reach for cigarettes when anxious.

If you make an effort to observe, you'll see that smokers who drive are in their own little world of relaxation. They are slow off the mark, drive very slowly, and make leisurely decisions when quick decisions are called for.

When it comes to tuna fish, I don't see a strong analogy. There are plenty of foods that I can't stand the smell of, but smoking is in a class by itself. It's not a food, but rather a source of combustion that travels extremely far.

Smokers just can't comprehend (because it's not in their self-interest) how offensive and disgusting that smoke is to non-smokers, and therefore they come up with all sorts of defenses about smoking.

But as for dating women, smoking has always been a complete deal-breaker for me. Who wants to hang out with a woman who stinks like a stale ashtray? Their breath stinks as does their hair and clothing.
 

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I think that you disagree on driving because you haven't noticed the phenomenon. It's something I've noticed most of my adult life. The first thing smokers do when anxious is light up. Drivers after a hard day at work light up when driving home. We can speculate on the oral thing and all sorts of reasons why cigarettes relax smokers, but the bottom line is that smoking calms the nerves of those who reach for cigarettes when anxious.

If you make an effort to observe, you'll see that smokers who drive are in their own little world of relaxation. They are slow off the mark, drive very slowly, and make leisurely decisions when quick decisions are called for.

When it comes to tuna fish, I don't see a strong analogy. There are plenty of foods that I can't stand the smell of, but smoking is in a class by itself. It's not a food, but rather a source of combustion that travels extremely far.

Smokers just can't comprehend (because it's not in their self-interest) how offensive and disgusting that smoke is to non-smokers, and therefore they come up with all sorts of defenses about smoking.

But as for dating women, smoking has always been a complete deal-breaker for me. Who wants to hang out with a woman who stinks like a stale ashtray? Their breath stinks as does their hair and clothing.
Smoking brings people addicted to nicotine back to a baseline, so relieves any temporary withdrawal/discomfort they may be feeling.

If someone never smoked, then had 1 and stepped into a car, then yes could be an issue as likely to have a head rush/feel a bit dizzy for a few mins, but doubt that happens often.

I'm struggling to believe there's any real world correlation to bad driving, more accidents etc due to smokers mental state though... is there any data to back this up?

I'd have thought if there was any real issue, it'd have been clamped on down by now. In the same way alcohol has been and now drugs.

I'd imagine someone amped up on caffeine is more of an issue, and even that is marginal. Some people get really impatient, knarly, wired and more aggressive when drinking coffee...
 
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I think that you disagree on driving because you haven't noticed the phenomenon. It's something I've noticed most of my adult life. The first thing smokers do when anxious is light up. Drivers after a hard day at work light up when driving home. We can speculate on the oral thing and all sorts of reasons why cigarettes relax smokers, but the bottom line is that smoking calms the nerves of those who reach for cigarettes when anxious.

If you make an effort to observe, you'll see that smokers who drive are in their own little world of relaxation. They are slow off the mark, drive very slowly, and make leisurely decisions when quick decisions are called for.

When it comes to tuna fish, I don't see a strong analogy. There are plenty of foods that I can't stand the smell of, but smoking is in a class by itself. It's not a food, but rather a source of combustion that travels extremely far.

Smokers just can't comprehend (because it's not in their self-interest) how offensive and disgusting that smoke is to non-smokers, and therefore they come up with all sorts of defenses about smoking.

But as for dating women, smoking has always been a complete deal-breaker for me. Who wants to hang out with a woman who stinks like a stale ashtray? Their breath stinks as does their hair and clothing.
Yes my friend but we have already established above that you’re a NAZI!!!!

fair enough, each to their own.

All I would ask is that you evaluate drivers in all circumstances. You may not be remembering the smokers who didn’t hold you up, as you clearly have a dislike of smoking in general so you may be experiencing a confirmation bias. It is not a widely acknowledged phenomenon. The rest of what you say is totally understandable, I can understand why people don’t like it.

i objectively don’t see the difference between a man eating a tuna or mackerel salad on the bus or smoking. It would make me retch and physically have to leave the bus. I don’t have the right to demand him to stop because it’s my hang up - not his. It’s inconsiderate yes, but it’s my own sensitivity. The words “man up, it won’t kill you” spring to mind. Being honest very few things actually p1ss me off that much.

As I say, I am not a smoker. I actually don’t want to be around cigarettes either.
I just don’t have a pathological hatred of it, which I must say seems a bit absurd.

I was vaping on the street once and an old couple got a whiff of a cherry flavoured cloud and they accosted me and I thought the guy was going to hit me.

I do think it’s actually more of a reason to be spiteful than a general dislike. It’s like a socially acceptable way people can be controlling and unpleasant to others over minor things.
 

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Does anyone else agree that roll ups are the worst, and most girls who smoke them tend to be rougher than girls who smoke normal cigarettes?
 
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As the title says. I'm just curious what your stance on dating a smoker is.

Used to i would have but now.....hell no.

Its a disgusting habit. I even smoke weed myself sometimes but cigarettes....forget about. Only trashy women smoke cigs.
 
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