Would you date a girl who smokes cigarettes?

[Black Widow Void]

Men are "prissy" because they have their own personal preferences and don't lose frame over it?

For many, smoking is a deal breaker. Me included. Putting up with something that you don't like is a beta trait. I really don't care if someone wants to smoke, its just not for me and not someone I would want to date. Preferences and our own standards that come from them are certainly not prissy.

Funny (not in a "haha' way, but in a peculiar way).

it's sort of a given... that women will sometimes get emotional and defensive over a topic that they've drawn out of proportion. No offence, but this seems to be the case here.

Once again, I'll explain. When I asserted that some forum members are behaving "prissy"... this was not a result of if they approve or disapprove of a female smoker. Instead, I made this claim; due to forum member behavior, mannerisms and attitude behind their disapproval.

Again, as a smoker, I've dated many (actually most) women that are non-smokers. It's also usually a red-flag for them too, but for some reason, they've made an exception with me. The difference between these women and some men on this forum is their attitude (seems like some men on this forum are getting their gander up far worse than women I've known).

Personally, I don't care for women with tattoos. However (unlike some male forum members) I'm not going to appear as if I have my hand on my hip .. if I explain why I disapprove.

 

[Atom Smasher]

i think that’s your own bias. The idea smokers drive any differently is pretty odd. Also given the fact that smokers are risk takers, and non smokers are risk adverse, I’d say the opposite is likely true.

I’m a former smoker of many moons ago, so I don’t have bias as such.

I would guess that relentless campaigns by health authorities/social progressives may have clouded the issue somewhat.

in terms of entitlement, I don’t see smokers demanding the right to smoke in other peoples living rooms and public spaces. Yet, non smokers are on the verge of banning smoking in all public Spaces in a number of countries. That’s highly authoritarian and illiberal.
It really is odd how vitriolic the anti smoking feeling is. I guess if you just repeat a message enough times in the media you can manufacture whatever grievance you want.

classic in group/out group dynamic. Smoking a fag, provided you aren’t literally blowing it in someone’a face doesn’t harm anyone but the smoker. The passive smoking figures are pretty overblown anyway. you most likely have more to risk from diesel fumes, but I don’t see diesel drivers being demonised.

live and let live.

Nicotine is a drug, my man. It is a tranquilizer. When people drive while smoking they tend to relax excessively and lose sight of the flow of traffic.

The perceived “vitriol” against smokers is because you as a smoker are denying others the right to breath fresh air. You are invading their space by injecting a disgusting and unhealthy stench into the air. Your reply defending the habit is a perfect example of the selfish aspect of it. You have no concept of how disgusting and disagreeable that stink is to the majority of people because you immerse yourself in it continuously (if you’re still a smoker).

 

[HaleyBaron]

I dislike women who smoke. A woman's habits say a lot about her. I can tolerate being a shopping fanatic. Being a lazy fat ass and/ or smoking, nope.

 

[Black Widow Void]

Nicotine is a drug, my man. It is a tranquilizer. When people drive while smoking they tend to relax excessively and lose sight of the flow of traffic.

The perceived “vitriol” against smokers is because you as a smoker are denying others the right to breath fresh air. You are invading their space by injecting a disgusting and unhealthy stench into the air. Your reply defending the habit is a perfect example of the selfish aspect of it. You have no concept of how disgusting and disagreeable that stink is to the majority of people because you immerse yourself in it continuously (if you’re still a smoker).

I have good news!

Against air pollution? I have a solution for you. Never drive an automobile again. And also, never be a passenger in an automobile as well. The carcinogens emitted from one automobile Farrrr exceed that of a cigarette.

I'll consider kicking the smoking habit (for the environment) when you also put your money where your mouth is.

As to your analogy about smokers being too relaxed while driving, let's go there. If they were truly "impaired" then can you explain why smokers are not getting arrested for "driving while impaired?" Also, over fifty years ago, nearly half the population were smokers. How did they get to their destination? After all, if half the traffic back then were smokers (according to your logic) they'd all be driving at a snails pace.

Instead, I suspect that your traffic analogy is similar to the attitude of those that first owned cellphones. Back when cellphones were a luxury, some of the non-cellphone owners would raise a fuss over those that would talk (not text, but talk) while they were driving. Now that most people own a cellphone, we hear nothing about those that talk while driving.

Irony: A lot of the forum members here... . are affiliated with a political party - known for preaching "tolerance." I'm certainly not seeing this being put into practice. Sounds like a case of "Tolerance for me, but not for thee."

 

[Robert28]

The only place I’ve seen smoking being a real problem is online dating. Every woman on there is anti-smoking, even if she herself smokes.lol Smoking doesn’t bother me, as long as you don’t do it in my truck. I’ll take someone that smokes cigarettes over someone that does drugs any day. I’d rather date a single hot girl that smokes vs a hot single mom who doesn’t. To me those gaudy trashy tattoos women have are far worse than someone who smokes.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

I don't like smoking so no I probably wouldn't. I would get annoyed with it in time.

By date, if you meant get my D suckd you would be accurate.

 

[Glassguy]

it's sort of a given... that women will sometimes get emotional and defensive over a topic that they've drawn out of proportion. No offence, but this seems to be the case here.

If you are insinuating that I got defensive, that is not true. I know what I prefer and that is all that matters. Its not judging, its just preference.

I agree that a lot of tattoos on a chick looks trashy. Not all the time, but most of the time. I dont care if a chick has one on her wrist or somewhere hidden as long as it doesnt look like a prison tat.

 

[Reyaj]

 

[NiceBarn]

im British dude my teeth are awful anyway

Lol at least you were able to quit. Think of the money you saved. It really was the dumbest habit I ever partook. That being said, damn I could go for a drag.

 

[Guitar_Whizz]

This thread has become hilarious - how could a simple question about whether you'd date a girl who smokes degenerate into discussions about men who are against smoking being less manly, women who smoke having mental issues and people who smoke drive slower? Lol.

 

[B80]

Just to develop this further, do you know who was the first government to have an anti smoking campaign?

1930s Germany. NAZis

just saying....the NAZIs were actually fervent anti smokers.

Good work. Probably the best introduction of Nazi's I've encountered in decades on the internet

Godwin's law - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Atom Smasher]

former smoker.

grew up in a world where everyone smokes.

I take your points on the smell etc, but I disagree on driving. Nicotine is a stimulant by the way, not a tranquilliser.
This would be apparent if you’d tried nicotine, it makes your heart race.

Personally, I hate the smell of tuna. It doesn’t give me the right to stop people ordering tuna in a restaurant. The “health” line is just a way to get it through, you have no risk from passive smoke over and above petrol fumes.

agree to disagree.

I think that you disagree on driving because you haven't noticed the phenomenon. It's something I've noticed most of my adult life. The first thing smokers do when anxious is light up. Drivers after a hard day at work light up when driving home. We can speculate on the oral thing and all sorts of reasons why cigarettes relax smokers, but the bottom line is that smoking calms the nerves of those who reach for cigarettes when anxious.

If you make an effort to observe, you'll see that smokers who drive are in their own little world of relaxation. They are slow off the mark, drive very slowly, and make leisurely decisions when quick decisions are called for.

When it comes to tuna fish, I don't see a strong analogy. There are plenty of foods that I can't stand the smell of, but smoking is in a class by itself. It's not a food, but rather a source of combustion that travels extremely far.

Smokers just can't comprehend (because it's not in their self-interest) how offensive and disgusting that smoke is to non-smokers, and therefore they come up with all sorts of defenses about smoking.

But as for dating women, smoking has always been a complete deal-breaker for me. Who wants to hang out with a woman who stinks like a stale ashtray? Their breath stinks as does their hair and clothing.

 

[B80]

I think that you disagree on driving because you haven't noticed the phenomenon. It's something I've noticed most of my adult life. The first thing smokers do when anxious is light up. Drivers after a hard day at work light up when driving home. We can speculate on the oral thing and all sorts of reasons why cigarettes relax smokers, but the bottom line is that smoking calms the nerves of those who reach for cigarettes when anxious.

If you make an effort to observe, you'll see that smokers who drive are in their own little world of relaxation. They are slow off the mark, drive very slowly, and make leisurely decisions when quick decisions are called for.

When it comes to tuna fish, I don't see a strong analogy. There are plenty of foods that I can't stand the smell of, but smoking is in a class by itself. It's not a food, but rather a source of combustion that travels extremely far.

Smokers just can't comprehend (because it's not in their self-interest) how offensive and disgusting that smoke is to non-smokers, and therefore they come up with all sorts of defenses about smoking.

But as for dating women, smoking has always been a complete deal-breaker for me. Who wants to hang out with a woman who stinks like a stale ashtray? Their breath stinks as does their hair and clothing.

Smoking brings people addicted to nicotine back to a baseline, so relieves any temporary withdrawal/discomfort they may be feeling.

If someone never smoked, then had 1 and stepped into a car, then yes could be an issue as likely to have a head rush/feel a bit dizzy for a few mins, but doubt that happens often.

I'm struggling to believe there's any real world correlation to bad driving, more accidents etc due to smokers mental state though... is there any data to back this up?

I'd have thought if there was any real issue, it'd have been clamped on down by now. In the same way alcohol has been and now drugs.

I'd imagine someone amped up on caffeine is more of an issue, and even that is marginal. Some people get really impatient, knarly, wired and more aggressive when drinking coffee...

 

[Guitar_Whizz]

Does anyone else agree that roll ups are the worst, and most girls who smoke them tend to be rougher than girls who smoke normal cigarettes?

 

[zinc4]

As the title says. I'm just curious what your stance on dating a smoker is.

Used to i would have but now.....hell no.

Its a disgusting habit. I even smoke weed myself sometimes but cigarettes....forget about. Only trashy women smoke cigs.

 

[Guitar_Whizz]

Overall it's not s good habit, though some girls do look hot when they smoke. The smell and taste is a turn off, though. Then again, there's the saying 'If she smokes, she pokes'

 

[Guitar_Whizz]

Nicotine is a drug, my man. It is a tranquilizer.

It's a stimulant actually. The only reason it falsely appears to be a 'tranquilizer' is because it temporarily relieves a smoker of their nicotine withdraw symptoms. It doesn't actually calm them down.

 

[TheCharmingGuy]

I don’t like having to hold my breath when I kiss them. Also, what if they smoke so much between sex that my **** turns black?

 

[Hamurabimbi]

Not ideal. But sure. I have.

 

[Billtx49]

I smoked at a moderate to heavy level in my younger life, but I wouldn’t turn a woman down for engaging in the same vice even though I no longer do…