"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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women today - poll

Women today are...

  • of the same quality as past generations

    Votes: 11 28.9%
  • are of higher quality than past generations

    Votes: 2 5.3%
  • are of lower quality than past generations

    Votes: 25 65.8%

  • Total voters
    38

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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blueguy

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Here's the thing guys:

Women haven't changed. Their environments have.
 

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I thought if you treat women as people you end up in the friend zone.

Am I the only one who finds this thread completely hillarious?
 

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blueguy said:
Here's the thing guys:

Women haven't changed. Their environments have.
But...women adapt to their environment..therefore, they change.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Mr.Positive said:
But...women adapt to their environment..therefore, they change.
Right, but basically the problem here is that humans are going to do whatever they can get away with. I know we're talking women here, but it's really the same thing. Let's make some cases:

Whenever a society gets law enforcement (in the past, present, future):

A. Rape goes way down.
B. Theft goes way down.

Now that we have laws in place against racial profiling:

C. Racism goes way down.

etc.

But the fact is, deep down inside people still want to rape (sex), steal (secure), prejudge. It's all biological.

Does it mean people are less or more quality just because they can or can't do something they could or couldn't before? Not in my opinion...

Divorce is up because it's socially acceptable. But guess what? Wives still bickered with their husbands back in the day. It's in the friggin' Bible. Hate/selfishness has always existed, and it always will.

At least we're not murdering thousands of people a day in huge wars like we did hundreds of years ago.

Maybe I'm arguing a minute point here, but I think it's really pointless to complain that women are of poorer quality now than in the past (which I don't think is the case). It doesn't actually solve the problem. Solving the problem would be providing these "low quality" women of today with the new conditions that benefit them (and us at the same time).
 

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But getting to the root of it:

Women can't be controlled in a marriage as easy today as in the past.

Yes, that's true.

(Because they can walk with half your stuff)

And I believe that is what guys here are referring to as a quality woman.
 

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squirrels said:
People in general are of lower quality today.

Why? Because they can get away with it. Life is too easy.
Absolutely. I always say good manners fade away the moment sword duels were banned. Who would risk insulting you, if he could be bollocks minus that same evening? :D
 

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jophil28 said:
However I still have this sneaking suspicion that you will want to have the last word .
you know what, squirrels replied to this thread first and said all people in general were lower quality also.
why are you not trying to argue with him?
why are you only trying to argue with me?
 

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penkitten said:
you know what, squirrels replied to this thread first and said all people in general were lower quality also.
why are you not trying to argue with him?
why are you only trying to argue with me?
Maybe he likes you Pen... ;)
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Wether women today are lower quality maybe I don't know...

If there are more low quality women now than before HELL ****ING yeah...
 

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I'm not surprised that a lot of men here say that women just plain suck. However, it's the same for women. WHat's the difference between men/women now and let's say.. back in the 1960s?

Well...

1. They didn't have the internet
2. THey didn't have Cable TV
3. They didn't have mass marketing
4. They didn't have birth control pill
5. They didn't have gun violence problems/rape problems/high crime

Because they didn't men focused their lives hanging with their buddies, working cars, or doing something productive. Women, the same with cooking, learning arts and crafts, etc.
 
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A woman get get no lower than the "hor" status - she has reached her lowest depths!!!
 

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haha some chic or troll hit the 'higher quality' button over 200 times.

the poll results are now defunct.
 

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However I still have this sneaking suspicion that you will want to have the last word.
Wrong. I will have the last word:

Word.


(If Wyldfire were here, she'd start a poll asking if men were made of better stuff in the old days. I'd have to say yes.)
 
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"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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The poll's been spammed.

Not having been around for enough generations, I'm not about to make a call one way or the other.

It does appear they're more confused, though... as are men.
 
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