DharmaBear
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How would one define a "quality" woman?
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"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
women today - poll
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
KontrollerX
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Lower quality.
Mr.Positive
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I thought if you treat women as people you end up in the friend zone.
Am I the only one who finds this thread completely hillarious?
Am I the only one who finds this thread completely hillarious?
Mr.Positive
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But...women adapt to their environment..therefore, they change.blueguy said:
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Right, but basically the problem here is that humans are going to do whatever they can get away with. I know we're talking women here, but it's really the same thing. Let's make some cases:Mr.Positive said:
Whenever a society gets law enforcement (in the past, present, future):
A. Rape goes way down.
B. Theft goes way down.
Now that we have laws in place against racial profiling:
C. Racism goes way down.
etc.
But the fact is, deep down inside people still want to rape (sex), steal (secure), prejudge. It's all biological.
Does it mean people are less or more quality just because they can or can't do something they could or couldn't before? Not in my opinion...
Divorce is up because it's socially acceptable. But guess what? Wives still bickered with their husbands back in the day. It's in the friggin' Bible. Hate/selfishness has always existed, and it always will.
At least we're not murdering thousands of people a day in huge wars like we did hundreds of years ago.
Maybe I'm arguing a minute point here, but I think it's really pointless to complain that women are of poorer quality now than in the past (which I don't think is the case). It doesn't actually solve the problem. Solving the problem would be providing these "low quality" women of today with the new conditions that benefit them (and us at the same time).
But getting to the root of it:
Women can't be controlled in a marriage as easy today as in the past.
Yes, that's true.
(Because they can walk with half your stuff)
And I believe that is what guys here are referring to as a quality woman.
Women can't be controlled in a marriage as easy today as in the past.
Yes, that's true.
(Because they can walk with half your stuff)
And I believe that is what guys here are referring to as a quality woman.
penkitten
Master Don Juan
you know what, squirrels replied to this thread first and said all people in general were lower quality also.jophil28 said:
why are you not trying to argue with him?
why are you only trying to argue with me?
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
Maybe he likes you Pen...penkitten said:
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
Hitman10000
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I'm not surprised that a lot of men here say that women just plain suck. However, it's the same for women. WHat's the difference between men/women now and let's say.. back in the 1960s?
Well...
1. They didn't have the internet
2. THey didn't have Cable TV
3. They didn't have mass marketing
4. They didn't have birth control pill
5. They didn't have gun violence problems/rape problems/high crime
Because they didn't men focused their lives hanging with their buddies, working cars, or doing something productive. Women, the same with cooking, learning arts and crafts, etc.
Well...
1. They didn't have the internet
2. THey didn't have Cable TV
3. They didn't have mass marketing
4. They didn't have birth control pill
5. They didn't have gun violence problems/rape problems/high crime
Because they didn't men focused their lives hanging with their buddies, working cars, or doing something productive. Women, the same with cooking, learning arts and crafts, etc.
Last Man Standing
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A woman get get no lower than the "hor" status - she has reached her lowest depths!!!
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Bonhomme
Master Don Juan
The poll's been spammed.
Not having been around for enough generations, I'm not about to make a call one way or the other.
It does appear they're more confused, though... as are men.
Not having been around for enough generations, I'm not about to make a call one way or the other.
It does appear they're more confused, though... as are men.