Women Love Orbiters But Isn't It A Waste of Their Time?

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So how do we find a woman that values teamwork and powerful monogamy?
Here I am but y'all would dump me because I won't put out for a month or so (aka 'longer') - when I'm comfortable, have built trust with you, and know we are on the same page.

I'm just saying....
 

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Here I am but y'all would dump me because I won't put out for a month or so (aka 'longer') - when I'm comfortable, have built trust with you, and know we are on the same page.

I'm just saying....
Its not what they say its what they do lollllll

But on a serious note that probably what most of us wish for. But even good things never last....
 

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So how do we find a woman that values teamwork and powerful monogamy?
In my opinion, a man has to marry them young before they start to explore their sexual desires with other people and keep a strong frame. If you live in Utah, and are a Mormon, you'd do well. For us, 30's and above, that ship has sailed. Seems the populous get tired and prefers short term relationships. Ladies start to test around the 3 - 5 month mark; and that can be a double edged sword. If you fail (give in), you're in her frame and she'll lose respect for you. You keep your frame and walk away, the relationship is over. She doesn't really care as she has a box of d!cks (her phone) in her pocket for new suitors to line up and replace you. She may come back in a few months, but aside from a few fvcks, the trust issues will prevent most for pair bonding.

It's a no win situation. Best bet is to enjoy your turn and stacking up resources.
 

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A girl keeping an orbiter around for attention is like the male equivalent of a guy keeping a plate around just for sex: neither has any intention of investing in the orbiter or plate but they enjoy the feelings they get from those arrangement and they sure like the attention.
It’s not the same.

For orbiters it’s about feelings, for plates it’s about a logistical return. No plate is going to sleep with you because she “likes” you, she needs a substantial return.

I’m not going to get into a useless debate about how women are selfish and evil and men are loyal and honourable bc that view is complete BS. Both genders have the capacity to be douchbags, both have the capacity to be decent people. Women don’t have a jump on selfish behaviour, neither do men.
Disagree.

Women are practical and selfish before any other attribute and their natural inclination in life is to exploit the men around her. She cannot survive otherwise.

Some men and women use each other for good feelings and don’t offer much in return, because they don’t want more than that and they find people who let them use them.
If a man uses a woman for “good feelings” he is an idiot.

‘How did your date go with that actress Friday night?”
“Great.”
“What did you get? Makeout? Sex?”
“No bro, I got good feelings.”
“Sweet!”


That’s how some men and women are, but not all men and women are like this.
All men are not the same, but all women are. They are all selfish, biologically programmed that way.
 
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Wut the fvk did you actually just say, lol
This makes my head hurt, and now I need a dictionary.....lmao
Hahaha I actually work with someone who refers to straight people as cisgender. The first time I heard her say it in a meeting I had to google it like come on people lol. Jordan Peterson shakes his head at this crap.
 

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Here I am but y'all would dump me because I won't put out for a month or so (aka 'longer') - when I'm comfortable, have built trust with you, and know we are on the same page.

I'm just saying....
Yes, it's nice in theory, but most men with some self-worth wouldn't hang around. The last lady I was with gave it up third or forth date. She told me she's had men wait up to six months. I said that's crazy. Simps to the max. Men, in general, have become so thirsty and needy, they appear to hang around a lady for months just to get a possibility to be in her. You ladies... A class act. As a different former lady of mine said to me, you do you. So, to you, I tell you to do the same. Not sure how that helps build anything but animosity and playing games with someone's emotions.
 

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In my opinion, a man has to marry them young before they start to explore their sexual desires with other people and keep a strong frame. If you live in Utah, and are a Mormon, you'd do well. For us, 30's and above, that ship has sailed. Seems the populous get tired and prefers short term relationships. Ladies start to test around the 3 - 5 month mark; and that can be a double edged sword. If you fail (give in), you're in her frame and she'll lose respect for you. You keep your frame and walk away, the relationship is over. She doesn't really care as she has a box of d!cks (her phone) in her pocket for new suitors to line up and replace you. She may come back in a few months, but aside from a few fvcks, the trust issues will prevent most for pair bonding.

It's a no win situation. Best bet is to enjoy your turn and stacking up resources.
Doesn’t Utah have the highest rate of online porn viewers? I read that somewhere.
 

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To me plate spinning is a fair exchange. She gets the attention and fringe benefits. I get the sex and fringe benefits.

Like most things in life it's probably an 80/20 rule. Yes there are exceptions but it's a useful rule. And the exceptions get higher post wall sorry ladies opportunity cost.

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I’m not sure if I’m allowed to say ‘straight woman’ anymore but yes, I’m a binary cisgender female.
According to the bible, constitution, and the animal kingdom, there are only two genders; male and female. In some States in the USA, there are 37. We're falling faster than the Roman Empire.
 
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To me plate spinning is a fair exchange. She gets the attention and fringe benefits. I get the sex and fringe ben

Like most things in life it's probably an 80/20 rule. Yes there are exceptions but it's a useful rule. And the exceptions get higher post wall sorry ladies opportunity cost.

Have a look here at the c0ck and wallet shopping here. Looks first money second beautiful soul 20th.

https://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/relati...a-life-of-oh-wells-not-what-if-s?pg=36&order=
I think plate spinning can be a fair exchange when both have no interest in exclusivity, yeah. Don’t ask don’t tell and just have fun.
 

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I think plate spinning can be a fair exchange when both have no interest in exclusivity, yeah. Don’t ask don’t tell and just have fun.
I was offered that a few times, I never cared for it. Though, I probably should had taken a few up to cover the short dry spells I had when I had to go back looking for new meat, I mean ladies. Something in me just loses all respect for them when they suggest FWB, I just walk. I find it even more hilarious when they reach out months later with the standard "Hey, How are you".
 

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Yes, it's nice in theory, but most men with some self-worth wouldn't hang around. The last lady I was with gave it up third or forth date. She told me she's had men wait up to six months. I said that's crazy. Simps to the max. Men, in general, have become so thirsty and needy, they appear to hang around a lady for months just to get a possibility to be in her. You ladies... A class act. As a different former lady of mine said to me, you do you. So, to you, I tell you to do the same. Not sure how that helps build anything but animosity and playing games with someone's emotions.
Six months?! That's nuts! I just take my time to screen a bit, usually a month, month and a half. I just want to know who I am getting involved with, who they really are. Six months seems abusive.
 

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To me plate spinning is a fair exchange. She gets the attention and fringe benefits. I get the sex and fringe benefits.

Like most things in life it's probably an 80/20 rule. Yes there are exceptions but it's a useful rule. And the exceptions get higher post wall sorry ladies opportunity cost.

Have a look here at the c0ck and wallet shopping here. Looks first money second beautiful soul 20th.

https://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/relati...a-life-of-oh-wells-not-what-if-s?pg=36&order=
Yes, this how you find out how and what ladies real feelings and actions are. Gee, and I wonder why we have such a wide spread of STDs and now two nearly incurable ones (this is a reason why I've given up FWBs. Just too dangerous).
 

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Not sure, but they are said to have the most marriages out of any US State (https://www.usatoday.com/picture-ga...s-where-the-most-people-are-married/39043631/).
Yeah they get married young. But like you said past a certain age it’s not happening with those girls. They marry guys closer to their age who are also virgins and are also Mormons of course.
Of course there is the polygamist sect. Old guys taking the pick of the litter. But girls are fleeing that cult in droves so probably slim pickings at this point.
 
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Six months?! That's nuts! I just take my time to screen a bit, usually a month, month and a half. I just want to know who I am getting involved with, who they really are. Six months seems abusive.
In her defense, she's very attractive. She shown me her phone and soo many orbiters... It's unreal. We had arguments about it. She would actually put her phone on airplane mode when we went to sleep. I didn't understand until the next morning when she was downstairs making some food for us.

After the FWB offer from her, I dropped her as I couldn't trust her. Trust is so hard in relationships... It's saddening at times.
 

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In her defense, she's very attractive. She shown me her phone and soo many orbiters... It's unreal. We had arguments about it. After the FWB offer from her, I dropped her as I couldn't trust her. Trust is so hard in relationships... It's saddening at times.
I'm not wasting my time on a man, without sex, for six months. That's ridiculous. If I'm hanging around him, it's for a reason, and that reason is NOT to prolong my celibacy!
 

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I'm not wasting my time on a man, without sex, for six months. That's ridiculous. If I'm hanging around him, it's for a reason, and that reason is NOT to prolong my celibacy!
Many ladies use sex as a weapon. You ladies many not realize it, but that's why a lot of men hang around. One the few I walked away from, they all chased, but I already lost respect so I kept on walking. No one will control me.
 

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Many ladies use sex as a weapon. You ladies many not realize it, but that's why a lot of men hang around. One the few I walked away from, they all chased, but I already lost respect so I kept on walking. No one will control me.
Yeah, I don't disagree. I've known women who use sex to get what they want from men. If that is attention, they will string them along. Sometimes they do it in retaliation, because they feel wronged by the guy/a guy. Sometimes (rarely from what I have seen, but that's just my world) it's done for sport. Sometimes it occurs out of pure anxiety (surrounding actually having sex) (issues). It happens. There's always feelings, good, bad or ugly, wrapped up in the behavior. That's why you preach not to be an orbitor. Good advice.
 

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What's baffling is that while they get something out of this, aren't these women wasting their time with men they have no romantic interest in? It seems like they are wasting their time with these guys.
Its useless from a male perspective.

Fir women, attention is currency. Alphas, Chad's, Tyrone, etc have higher SMV so in order to attract, thry must put out. Some other chick will.

Welcome to the SMP.

This is what push/pull is. Its what the neg stems from. Its about baiting women. As in, acquisition of compliance which correlates with high interest levels. Think carnival and hitting the mallet and you hear ding. That is female attention. You want to hack at her self esteem and bull**** self concept. If she's a attention *****, who gives a ****kkk.

Bait her. She either is dtf or next her. I lead, she follows or next. Everything you do should be spiking her interest and making her wet. Even if you flake her, neg or disqualifying her, backhanded compliment etc should spike her feels.

Attention is female currency. Its why spin plates is GOAT STATUS.
 
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