"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Women going back on their word

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I have been dating a girl for 3 weeks and she has gone back on her word THREE TIMES already! That's once a week not a good honesty ratio.

I am a man of my word and I never do this stuff.

I mean these are very petty things, but it is still annoying and it's a big RED FLAG in my opinion. Am I just being picky or is there a legitimate beef here?

Her
"I will check my email tonight!"

2 days later
"I havent checked it yet"

Her
"I will bring food over to your place to cook!"

She shows up with nothing.

Her
"we can meet for breakfast tomorrow morning"... I never heard from her to confirm, and I didn't care so it's not like I showed up anywhere.

The next day she messages me
"i forgot about breakfast i'll make it up to you"

What does she tell me next, and how am I supposed to believe it?
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Obsidian said:
i would probably next

Not yet, too soon. I still like her and enjoy hanging out with her. Nobody is perfect right?
 

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I ****in hate when women flake out. I am getting tired of it, I cussed out a few chicks recently cuz I need to let it out. It felt good.
 
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I ****in hate when women flake out. I am getting tired of it, I cussed out a few chicks recently cuz I need to let it out. It felt good.


I feel your pain buddy, but would you call this flaking?

I'm just to the point where I want a girl to tell me something she is going to do, and it comes to fruition. That's what is bothering me. Maybe she doesn't even realize what she is doing. Perhaps she is just an airhead, even though she isn't blonde.

But would you categorize this girl as flaking or is her behavior normal and most women act this way?
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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I think you need to remind her of what she promised when she doesn't come through. If it pisses her off that you're holding her accountable, Next.
 
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Obsidian said:
I think you need to remind her of what she promised when she doesn't come through. If it pisses her off that you're holding her accountable, Next.

Actually when she texted me about "forgetting breakfast" I sent her back "I'll forgive you this time but don't let it happen again" I sent it with a wink ofcourse, because I didn't want to be TOO serious. She didn't reply to that text directly, but I did hear from her later in the day talking about something else.

Hopefully she understands that I won't tolerate the bullsh!t forever, like the other AFC's she has dated. I'm no doormat and I am establishing this EARLY that I WILL drop her a$$. That is key I believe. She may hate you for it now, but later she will respect you much more.

Just imagine, an AFC would have said "don't worry baby, we can have breakfast anytime, you are so sweet and beautiful! take care!!!" UGHHHH I shiver at the thought.

But you have good advice no doubt, let her know it's unacceptable.
 

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i would probably next and I am sure you will get what you want.
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I forgot to mention I think she is BROKE! That would explain her bailing out of anything money related. I wish she would just tell me though, instead of making up lame excuses.

I mean as Francisco said, "DAMN, she could have at least showed up with a frozen pizza and some wine coolers"

LOL
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Flaky crap is a test to see if you care and or if you are going to put her in her place. That's from my experience.

At some point the thing that is flaky will be something you can't ignore, you'll have to do something about it. It seems to start small and innocently but eventually she'll pull out the big stuff, forcing you to put her in her place. She may be wanting to test you for strength.

Of course some guys here say that if a girl ever flakes she has zero interest in you, some guys say it's a test, I myself think it's a test.

The thing is what are YOU going to do about it. You can't get angry next time she pulls something, but you can't let it slide either. You have to find the right balance between "you know, what you did is not going to trip me up" and "do that again and I'm gone".
 
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Flaky crap is a test to see if you care and or if you are going to put her in her place. That's from my experience.

At some point the thing that is flaky will be something you can't ignore, you'll have to do something about it. It seems to start small and innocently but eventually she'll pull out the big stuff, forcing you to put her in her place. She may be wanting to test you for strength.

Of course some guys here say that if a girl ever flakes she has zero interest in you, some guys say it's a test, I myself think it's a test.

The thing is what are YOU going to do about it. You can't get angry next time she pulls something, but you can't let it slide either. You have to find the right balance between "you know, what you did is not going to trip me up" and "do that again and I'm gone".

Hey my old friend reset. Thanks for chiming in. I will digest your post and get back to you. Let's see how the weekend turns out. With my luck it will be drama filled.
 

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You can't get angry next time she pulls something, but you can't let it slide either. You have to find the right balance between "you know, what you did is not going to trip me up" and "do that again and I'm gone".
Yup I would tell her what she is doing and how you don't like it! Can you control your ho's? Or you could ask youself, why is she doing this? Could there be more of a reason of why she is blowing you off?
 

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selfmademob said:
I ****in hate when women flake out. I am getting tired of it, I cussed out a few chicks recently cuz I need to let it out. It felt good.
Flakes suck, but s**** does happen, and sometimes the excuses are legitimate. As long as they are offering their spread legs before me in a darkened bedroom on occasion, I dont mind the flaking.
 

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Women flake cause they can and loose nothing.. they have so many options or plates most times that they care very little for you at all... unless you are very rich AND or a super model which 95% OF MEN ARE NOT.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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DonGorgon said:
Women flake cause they can and loose nothing.. they have so many options or plates most times that they care very little for you at all... unless you are very rich AND or a super model which 95% OF MEN ARE NOT.
This advice hits the spot.

On top of that, men tend to think logically, and see their word as something they keep. For women, it's not the same - their 'word' is simply something they say to keep you happy at the time. They don't feel they've done something wrong if they don't keep it, and will think you're 'nasty' if you complain.

I'm not fully certain how to get round this problem, but here's two tips I've had good success with:
  • A girl won't bail on you if she doesn't WANT to. If she's very keen to meet you, she'll 'keep her word' and meet you.
  • When a girl next wants to see you after bailing, say you can't meet her - you're going to meet another girl, as this other girl 'always meets you when she says she will'. She'll feel a competitive instinct, and will try to keep her arrangements with you to not lose out.
 

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Beethoven said:
This advice hits the spot.

On top of that, men tend to think logically, and see their word as something they keep. For women, it's not the same - their 'word' is simply something they say to keep you happy at the time. They don't feel they've done something wrong if they don't keep it, and will think you're 'nasty' if you complain.

I'm not fully certain how to get round this problem, but here's two tips I've had good success with:
  • A girl won't bail on you if she doesn't WANT to. If she's very keen to meet you, she'll 'keep her word' and meet you.
  • When a girl next wants to see you after bailing, say you can't meet her - you're going to meet another girl, as this other girl 'always meets you when she says she will'. She'll feel a competitive instinct, and will try to keep her arrangements with you to not lose out.
True but the only problem is how do we know when something really came up or they are just BSing...
 

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True but the only problem is how do we know when something really came up or they are just BSing...
There's no difference.

Either something else is more desirable to her than meeting you - or it isn't. A woman won't let something she's more concerned with go by merely because she gave her 'word'.

If she's BSing, it's because you didn't rate highly enough in her eyes. Rate more highly next time.
 

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Not yet, too soon. I still like her and enjoy hanging out with her. Nobody is perfect right?
Nope, but there is that thing called respect. Hey, why haven't you mentioned her age? :whistle:
 
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Francisco d'Anconia said:
Nope, but there is that thing called respect. Hey, why haven't you mentioned her age? :whistle:

yeah she just turned 21 did i forget to mention that?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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