"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Woman discuses how she enjoyed punishing and tormenting her husband. She took pleasure in his pain.
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"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
mrgoodstuff
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They damage themselves going down this path and these thoughts.
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mrgoodstuff
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It's alot of them. What makes it worse is for a man to continue to love her and be of service.
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
I got that impression from paul e.lam old youtube videos too, also Rich Co oper old youtube videos
FlexpertHamilton
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In America, probably at least 1/4 - 1/3 of them.
mrgoodstuff
Master Don Juan
Gawdfvckingdamn... That's terrible.
FlexpertHamilton
Master Don Juan
I'm just guessing, it could be lower, or higher, but American women are the most narcisstic and BDP on the planet.
mrgoodstuff
Master Don Juan
They are entitled and encouraged to control men. Many of the built in systems see things this way. ( Police, Judges, etc ). Men do pretty well in situations where they take care of themselves using a lawyer.
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
metalwater
Master Don Juan
good list,
social circles. number one way to find women is in social circles. everyone agrees.
The number one way to have women issues is from social circles; we don't talk about that one much. and work... but that is just another social circle complete with built-in status and hierarchies and usually private from us.
The reason women do hypergamy is because of other women in social circles. or just watching tv in the past; now it is watching/interacting with virtual. always comparing., and lying. women lie about there own status and then believe other women that are also lying.
At the same time, social circle (usually) is full of guys looking for women as we all know that is where to find them. regardless of if the man already has one or some.
going to a social circle to find women ( at the same time to increase your own maturity and growth) makes sense, we all do it. haveing our women in social circles full of men doesn't make as much sense for us. the groups that are women-only will often time focus on women-only or family topics(not really open to men). the groups that form inside of mixed groups are pure hypergamy triggers and with thirsty men right there on standby. some of those same men are the ones we tell to go there. because it works.
what we can do is work on ourselves to become the highest status guy in the group(of course for other reasons such as life purpose..)... so that all the other dudes are the only ones with the problem. but.. watch celebrities; these guys are status tops... and get cut by someone in the social circle sometimes someone junior to them. social media has magnified this already existing problem. the women are never away from the social circle now (that is full of women competitors and thirsty men, eh... maybe us).
to be honest; most of us are not the AMOG. although all are work in progress and at different stages of improvement.
so. the girl picked up in a social circle likely has already been with another guy there and will likely be with another guy after. terrible place to meet an LTR, best ever place to meet for a short-timer.
and the solution is...
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Wait few more hours and an ambassador from retard nation will come and say that you're "recruiting" users to join the mgtow ranks.
Then say that you speak like that cause you aint getting laid...as if dropping your load can change stats and data in the outside world.
Then say that you speak like that cause you aint getting laid...as if dropping your load can change stats and data in the outside world.
Your bullet points are bang on. This is the results of letting your emotions make your decisions.
Women fail to use logic and create all the mess in relationships, and feel justified by their actions.