Trainwreck
Master Don Juan
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I can figure everything else in life, but women. Am I just genetically inferior?
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Only avenues I have are OLD and bars lolHow do you try? Is it online dating?
Maybe you're not good looking enough. I think that's my problem.
Girls are very shallow and stupid, especially in online dating.
I don’t a social circle and I work 8-5You need Social Circles and Day game
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
overconfidenceI can figure everything else in life
I wouldn’t consider myself ugly, or at least I don’t think I qualify for only whales lol. I have a decent job and car too.There is only one reason why men fail with women: They try to punch above their weight.
Your LMS (looks, MONEY and status) determine your level of SMV (sexual market value). The PUA industry in an attempt to make MONEY has deluded most men into believing its all about personality and "game". Pop culture also perpetuates this lie.. which gives the average man severe social anxiety in situations with HOT women. That anxiety comes from the belief that they can "f*ck up their chances" if they don't showcase the right level of "game" or act "smooth" enough lol.
The truth is, your LMS will decide if a woman wants to f*ck you. If you have anxiety around her she will doubt your level of STATUS and possibly lose interest. But if you were aware of the LMS forces at play you would never have anxiety around any woman. You would be bold and confident in your personality because you would know your "game" doesn't matter.
Believers in "game" spend their time chasing women who are not attracted to them due to not meeting the woman's SMV standards. These clowns believe their low SMV doesn't matter because with enough "game" they can get the woman anyway. Not the case.
Lol.
There is only one reason why men fail with women: They try to punch above their weight.
Your LMS (looks, MONEY and status) determine your level of SMV (sexual market value). The PUA industry in an attempt to make MONEY has deluded most men into believing its all about personality and "game". Pop culture also perpetuates this lie.. which gives the average man severe social anxiety in situations with HOT women. That anxiety comes from the belief that they can "f*ck up their chances" if they don't showcase the right level of "game" or act "smooth" enough lol.
The truth is, your LMS will decide if a woman wants to f*ck you. If you have anxiety around her she will doubt your level of STATUS and possibly lose interest. But if you were aware of the LMS forces at play you would never have anxiety around any woman. You would be bold and confident in your personality because you would know your "game" doesn't matter.
Believers in "game" spend their time chasing women who are not attracted to them due to not meeting the woman's SMV standards. These clowns believe their low SMV doesn't matter because with enough "game" they can get the woman anyway. Not the case.
Lol.
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
i have heard some using that word before but what is exactly a frame if i may ask ?
Women are attracted to men with game, not money.There is only one reason why men fail with women: They try to punch above their weight.
Your LMS (looks, MONEY and status) determine your level of SMV (sexual market value). The PUA industry in an attempt to make MONEY has deluded most men into believing its all about personality and "game". Pop culture also perpetuates this lie.. which gives the average man severe social anxiety in situations with HOT women. That anxiety comes from the belief that they can "f*ck up their chances" if they don't showcase the right level of "game" or act "smooth" enough lol.
The truth is, your LMS will decide if a woman wants to f*ck you. If you have anxiety around her she will doubt your level of STATUS and possibly lose interest. But if you were aware of the LMS forces at play you would never have anxiety around any woman. You would be bold and confident in your personality because you would know your "game" doesn't matter.
Believers in "game" spend their time chasing women who are not attracted to them due to not meeting the woman's SMV standards. These clowns believe their low SMV doesn't matter because with enough "game" they can get the woman anyway. Not the case.
Lol.
Don't do OLD.Only avenues I have are OLD and bars lol
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Guys, Jesus...can we get some positivity? I feel like every thread is just people whining or ranting en masse lately. I rant too, but I try to keep it constructive. All this blame-game and "it's everyone else's fault" is really getting hard to read.How do you try? Is it online dating?
Maybe you're not good looking enough. I think that's my problem.
Girls are very shallow and stupid, especially in online dating.
If you don't have a social circle you're not going to get women in your life. It's like bricking up the door to your house and complaining that you're not getting out enough.I don’t a social circle and I work 8-5
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.