Trainwreck
Master Don Juan
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I can figure everything else in life, but women. Am I just genetically inferior?
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Only avenues I have are OLD and bars lolHow do you try? Is it online dating?
Maybe you're not good looking enough. I think that's my problem.
Girls are very shallow and stupid, especially in online dating.
I don’t a social circle and I work 8-5You need Social Circles and Day game
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
overconfidenceI can figure everything else in life
I wouldn’t consider myself ugly, or at least I don’t think I qualify for only whales lol. I have a decent job and car too.There is only one reason why men fail with women: They try to punch above their weight.
Your LMS (looks, MONEY and status) determine your level of SMV (sexual market value). The PUA industry in an attempt to make MONEY has deluded most men into believing its all about personality and "game". Pop culture also perpetuates this lie.. which gives the average man severe social anxiety in situations with HOT women. That anxiety comes from the belief that they can "f*ck up their chances" if they don't showcase the right level of "game" or act "smooth" enough lol.
The truth is, your LMS will decide if a woman wants to f*ck you. If you have anxiety around her she will doubt your level of STATUS and possibly lose interest. But if you were aware of the LMS forces at play you would never have anxiety around any woman. You would be bold and confident in your personality because you would know your "game" doesn't matter.
Believers in "game" spend their time chasing women who are not attracted to them due to not meeting the woman's SMV standards. These clowns believe their low SMV doesn't matter because with enough "game" they can get the woman anyway. Not the case.
Lol.
There is only one reason why men fail with women: They try to punch above their weight.
Your LMS (looks, MONEY and status) determine your level of SMV (sexual market value). The PUA industry in an attempt to make MONEY has deluded most men into believing its all about personality and "game". Pop culture also perpetuates this lie.. which gives the average man severe social anxiety in situations with HOT women. That anxiety comes from the belief that they can "f*ck up their chances" if they don't showcase the right level of "game" or act "smooth" enough lol.
The truth is, your LMS will decide if a woman wants to f*ck you. If you have anxiety around her she will doubt your level of STATUS and possibly lose interest. But if you were aware of the LMS forces at play you would never have anxiety around any woman. You would be bold and confident in your personality because you would know your "game" doesn't matter.
Believers in "game" spend their time chasing women who are not attracted to them due to not meeting the woman's SMV standards. These clowns believe their low SMV doesn't matter because with enough "game" they can get the woman anyway. Not the case.
Lol.
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
i have heard some using that word before but what is exactly a frame if i may ask ?
Women are attracted to men with game, not money.There is only one reason why men fail with women: They try to punch above their weight.
Your LMS (looks, MONEY and status) determine your level of SMV (sexual market value). The PUA industry in an attempt to make MONEY has deluded most men into believing its all about personality and "game". Pop culture also perpetuates this lie.. which gives the average man severe social anxiety in situations with HOT women. That anxiety comes from the belief that they can "f*ck up their chances" if they don't showcase the right level of "game" or act "smooth" enough lol.
The truth is, your LMS will decide if a woman wants to f*ck you. If you have anxiety around her she will doubt your level of STATUS and possibly lose interest. But if you were aware of the LMS forces at play you would never have anxiety around any woman. You would be bold and confident in your personality because you would know your "game" doesn't matter.
Believers in "game" spend their time chasing women who are not attracted to them due to not meeting the woman's SMV standards. These clowns believe their low SMV doesn't matter because with enough "game" they can get the woman anyway. Not the case.
Lol.
Don't do OLD.Only avenues I have are OLD and bars lol
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
Guys, Jesus...can we get some positivity? I feel like every thread is just people whining or ranting en masse lately. I rant too, but I try to keep it constructive. All this blame-game and "it's everyone else's fault" is really getting hard to read.How do you try? Is it online dating?
Maybe you're not good looking enough. I think that's my problem.
Girls are very shallow and stupid, especially in online dating.
If you don't have a social circle you're not going to get women in your life. It's like bricking up the door to your house and complaining that you're not getting out enough.I don’t a social circle and I work 8-5
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.