Why is it so hard for me to get women

[Trainwreck]

I can figure everything else in life, but women. Am I just genetically inferior?

 

[RichardTheFrog]

How do you try? Is it online dating?

Maybe you're not good looking enough. I think that's my problem.

Girls are very shallow and stupid, especially in online dating.

 

[Trainwreck]

How do you try? Is it online dating?

Maybe you're not good looking enough. I think that's my problem.

Girls are very shallow and stupid, especially in online dating.

Only avenues I have are OLD and bars lol

 

[Trainwreck]

You need Social Circles and Day game

I don’t a social circle and I work 8-5

 

[Urbanyst]

There is only one reason why men fail with women: They try to punch above their weight.

Your LMS (looks, MONEY and status) determine your level of SMV (sexual market value). The PUA industry in an attempt to make MONEY has deluded most men into believing its all about personality and "game". Pop culture also perpetuates this lie.. which gives the average man severe social anxiety in situations with HOT women. That anxiety comes from the belief that they can "f*ck up their chances" if they don't showcase the right level of "game" or act "smooth" enough lol.

The truth is, your LMS will decide if a woman wants to f*ck you. If you have anxiety around her she will doubt your level of STATUS and possibly lose interest. But if you were aware of the LMS forces at play you would never have anxiety around any woman. You would be bold and confident in your personality because you would know your "game" doesn't matter.

Believers in "game" spend their time chasing women who are not attracted to them due to not meeting the woman's SMV standards. These clowns believe their low SMV doesn't matter because with enough "game" they can get the woman anyway. Not the case.

Lol.

 

[wifehunter]

I can figure everything else in life

overconfidence

Women love guys with confidence but if it's not genuine or too much, they pick that up. You probably come off as a scammer.

 

[Trainwreck]

There is only one reason why men fail with women: They try to punch above their weight.

Your LMS (looks, MONEY and status) determine your level of SMV (sexual market value). The PUA industry in an attempt to make MONEY has deluded most men into believing its all about personality and "game". Pop culture also perpetuates this lie.. which gives the average man severe social anxiety in situations with HOT women. That anxiety comes from the belief that they can "f*ck up their chances" if they don't showcase the right level of "game" or act "smooth" enough lol.

The truth is, your LMS will decide if a woman wants to f*ck you. If you have anxiety around her she will doubt your level of STATUS and possibly lose interest. But if you were aware of the LMS forces at play you would never have anxiety around any woman. You would be bold and confident in your personality because you would know your "game" doesn't matter.

Believers in "game" spend their time chasing women who are not attracted to them due to not meeting the woman's SMV standards. These clowns believe their low SMV doesn't matter because with enough "game" they can get the woman anyway. Not the case.

Lol.

I wouldn’t consider myself ugly, or at least I don’t think I qualify for only whales lol. I have a decent job and car too.

 

[ZaCool]

There is only one reason why men fail with women: They try to punch above their weight.

Your LMS (looks, MONEY and status) determine your level of SMV (sexual market value). The PUA industry in an attempt to make MONEY has deluded most men into believing its all about personality and "game". Pop culture also perpetuates this lie.. which gives the average man severe social anxiety in situations with HOT women. That anxiety comes from the belief that they can "f*ck up their chances" if they don't showcase the right level of "game" or act "smooth" enough lol.

The truth is, your LMS will decide if a woman wants to f*ck you. If you have anxiety around her she will doubt your level of STATUS and possibly lose interest. But if you were aware of the LMS forces at play you would never have anxiety around any woman. You would be bold and confident in your personality because you would know your "game" doesn't matter.

Believers in "game" spend their time chasing women who are not attracted to them due to not meeting the woman's SMV standards. These clowns believe their low SMV doesn't matter because with enough "game" they can get the woman anyway. Not the case.

Lol.

I have seen some guys on here disagreeing with you, and i have to say i dont agree with you 100%, guys arent robots that just need money and status and nothing else ... with that being said i do agree with you to an extent, usually if youre rich you have no idea if she loves you loves your money but you can get that d!ck wet more times than you can count, dudes with nice cars, a place and status are the ones getting chicks, it simply puts you in a level above others, i personally have experienced this with extremely hot women who were more than interested in me and had less attractive bfs, but their bf had rich daddies and status , so yes money ,status and looks do indeed help a lot with women .

i lack status and money but i've got looks, and i get half successes, basically the attraction is there, its easy talking to women, they respond to me, they are nice to me ...etc

But heres what you have to consider, women view money differently, they dont look at you and say "damn he got a fat bank account" they are more concerned with the experinced you can provide, if you have a decent car to drive them around, a place even if its small then to them your value is higher than someone like me who got looks and personality only ... if i had a place i would be pulling chicks left and right but i dont .

of course we're normal dudes here none of us are that one in a million that has it figured out on all fronts he doest have to work hard for anything, we still have to put effort regardless of what we got , but you gotta have something .

 

[wifehunter]

you lack frame

 

[ZaCool]

i have heard some using that word before but what is exactly a frame if i may ask ?

 

[wifehunter]

i have heard some using that word before but what is exactly a frame if i may ask ?

 

[Rainman4707]

Online your pics have to be great, but women cannot resist attitude.
So suave newsletters about David De Angelo's ebook "attraction isn't a choice" have been good reading recently.

 

[Rainman4707]

There is only one reason why men fail with women: They try to punch above their weight.

Your LMS (looks, MONEY and status) determine your level of SMV (sexual market value). The PUA industry in an attempt to make MONEY has deluded most men into believing its all about personality and "game". Pop culture also perpetuates this lie.. which gives the average man severe social anxiety in situations with HOT women. That anxiety comes from the belief that they can "f*ck up their chances" if they don't showcase the right level of "game" or act "smooth" enough lol.

The truth is, your LMS will decide if a woman wants to f*ck you. If you have anxiety around her she will doubt your level of STATUS and possibly lose interest. But if you were aware of the LMS forces at play you would never have anxiety around any woman. You would be bold and confident in your personality because you would know your "game" doesn't matter.

Believers in "game" spend their time chasing women who are not attracted to them due to not meeting the woman's SMV standards. These clowns believe their low SMV doesn't matter because with enough "game" they can get the woman anyway. Not the case.

Lol.

Women are attracted to men with game, not money.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

Getting girls is a skill, like playing the piano or learning a language, or even something more complicated.

You can't just read about it and expect to know how to do it.

You have to practice for many years, and SLOWLY improve your skills.

The reasons practicing the piano for many years obvious, is it's not scary, there is no rejection (but it is plenty frustrating).

Practicing with real live women is terrifying for most dudes.

So instead of even putting it in the "practice makes perfect" category in their mind (since it's too terrifying to even think about - learning by trial and error) most guys won't even ACKNOWLEDGE that it's something that you CAN practice.

Instead they spend all their brainpower trying to come up with red pill theories as to why they don't need to practice.

Guys would rather NOT GET LAID and have a handy "red pill" excuse than simply put in the trial and error effort and SLOWLY get better with girls over YEARS.

That's the ONLY THING that separates guys who can get girls and guys who can't get girls.

Guys that can get girls are willing (or have been willing) to put in plenty of practice, when other guys are too scared / lazy to do the work.

There is absolutely NOTHING mysterious about it.

 

[Spaz]

Only avenues I have are OLD and bars lol

Don't do OLD.

Bars r just good for ONS.

Women r everywhere, plenty of places to meet women; supermarkets, libraries, shopping centers, parks, even while walking down the street.

I've picked up women even in a bus stop.

 

[ubercat]

Mate you don't have to date land Whales. Start with sixes and work your way up.

Any guy who isn't Quasimodo can learn to spit enough game to land a 6.

When you say you don't have a social circle what do you mean? If you don't have at least three or four friends in the world that should be higher priority than women.

Facing the world completely on your own is only going to be harsh. And the s*** friends will give you is good practice for the s*** woman will give you.

So if you haven't got any other avenues go to The Meetup groups. Talk to people be interested in what they say. Keep going to the same group regularly and once you've talked to that person for the third time say hey let's go grab a coffee or a beer.

A lot of times they won't be interested that's fine it's just like dating just move on to the next one.

Of course maybe you are Mister social in which case disregard everything I said.

 

[MoreThanSmooth]

How do you try? Is it online dating?

Maybe you're not good looking enough. I think that's my problem.

Girls are very shallow and stupid, especially in online dating.

Guys, Jesus...can we get some positivity? I feel like every thread is just people whining or ranting en masse lately. I rant too, but I try to keep it constructive. All this blame-game and "it's everyone else's fault" is really getting hard to read.

This isn't HateWomen.com, this is supposed to be about personal betterment. I only joined before Christmas but the vibe then was far more helpful and positive, every thread I read now is basically "life sucks, women suck, dating sucks, I'm buying 6 feet of rope tomorrow if I don't get a GF. But I'm also totally alpha and not at all insecure."

 

[Who Dares Win]

A woman knows within 10 seconds after meeting if she finds you attractive or not, if she does not then no amount of "confidence", status or money is gonna make her feel genuinely attracted.

A man should focus on recognize interest before trying to increase or keep it.

A weak personality is gonna make you fail, agree on that but if you fail the look check anything else has no importance.

Btw by look I mean your genetic base, your current bodyshape, body language and style.

 

[MoreThanSmooth]

I don’t a social circle and I work 8-5

If you don't have a social circle you're not going to get women in your life. It's like bricking up the door to your house and complaining that you're not getting out enough.

I'm in the same position myself - I work 16 hour days and I don't have many people to socialise with. So I'm happy to accept that girls are not a priority until I'm done with my current job and in the mean time I'm working out and working on improving myself.

Self improvement is the key. Wallowing in self pity (which I'm not saying you're doing btw), buying material s*** and ranting about how all women are Satanists isn't helpful.

 

[sosousage]

Old id very trashy so you better find social circles with girls in it.

Old only works for deppression

Like really, i regret every message i sent there