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Why Do Women Break Up With Guys Who Lose Their Jobs

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But would a man dump a woman who lost her job?
The purpose of the dude is to acquire resources.

The purpose of the lady is to raise kids. Beauty and youth are signals that indicate this.

A guy breaking up with a lady because she lost her job is not the same as a lady breaking up with a guy who lost his job.

That's the point of this thread.
The point of this thread is to ask why a woman would dump a dude for losing his job, NOT to ask what would happens were the roles reversed.

My response was to indicate that women dumping dudes due to their loss of resource acquisition is similar to dudes dumping ladies because they lose their beauty and femininity.

There is no such thing as fairness and if you expect other humans to behave fairly you'll be destroyed.

Understand male nature, understand female nature, and get in the game and do your best.

That's all anybody can do.

Complaining about what you think should happen is counterproductive.
 

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Women today have endless options. They have no patience for any sort of inconvenience or hard work.

Every white collar man who is laid off can expect to lose his girlfriend or wife as a result of a job loss. If you have a wife, you have more time. If you have a girlfriend, she will depart faster. A white collar job search takes anywhere from 3-9 months.

Blue collar men and low wage service sector workers have it easier in this regard. Women who date blue collar men and men with McJobs tend to care a little less about employment, especially if you happen to be a tattooed dirtbag.
I do still think it's weird they don't stick around, do they expect a guy who loses his job to magically find a new one the next day?
Why are you applying rationality to women? Women operate on feelings and emotions.

But would a man dump a woman who lost her job?
Most men would not. That would even include weaker betas. A woman's work almost no relevance to her value as a mate.
 

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The purpose of the dude is to acquire resources.

The purpose of the lady is to raise kids. Beauty and youth are signals that indicate this.

A guy breaking up with a lady because she lost her job is not the same as a lady breaking up with a guy who lost his job.



The point of this thread is to ask why a woman would dump a dude for losing his job, NOT to ask what would happens were the roles reversed.

My response was to indicate that women dumping dudes due to their loss of resource acquisition is similar to dudes dumping ladies because they lose their beauty and femininity.

There is no such thing as fairness and if you expect other humans to behave fairly you'll be destroyed.

Understand male nature, understand female nature, and get in the game and do your best.

That's all anybody can do.

Complaining about what you think should happen is counterproductive.
What you've written is obvious my man.

"Would a man dump a woman who lost her job" was meant to draw boneheads on this forum to the exact conclusion you've written. Directly talking about gender roles massively triggers people now.

This forum is infected with gender blending "men and women are the same" woke-ism. Not the fault of these men, because they've been brainwashed. But it is their responsibility to un-brainwash themselves.
 

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Recently my Relative announced that his wife is leaving him, 1.5 months ago he lost his job because the firm he was working for went bankrupt due to the pandemic (the economy is not in good shape). Obviously it's hard to find a new job with the virus around and restrictions for everything. They have been married for 15 years and she works in a super market.

I just understand why she decided to end a 15 year marriage because her husband lost his job and couldn't find a new one. This seems to be a common theme with women as well since i have heard about it before.

Why do women do this?
He's failed and women are gone. This is modern women. They don't care about the struggle. They are parasitic opportunistic in nature. If not for geriatric pregnancy and cratered smv wouldn't never change. They don't change because of learning or finding god. They can't compete and are forced to survive by shacking up with some cuck.

The lesson is to not play house and to exit the west. Enter cultures and countries that don't incentivize divorce rape. It's simple as that. 80% of divorce rape is initiated by women. Those still married are often sexless and unhappy. The behavior of modern women isn't one of love nor liking men.

Fellas need to acknowledge the reciprocity or lack thereof. Outside of sex, I am not much interested in women. Few are funny and DHV. The concept is incomprehensible for modern women. The idea of cooking and cleaning is a stretch. Wants kids and marriage. Doesn't want to be a mother or wife. Absolutely disgusting.

Most are throater material followed by a hard #next! The playbook is to act accordingly. Challenge - prove Me wrong @ baeeeees. I got my troll cannon charged up when she talks playing house and marriage.
 
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He's failed and women are gone. This is modern women. They don't care about the struggle. They are parasitic opportunistic in nature.
True. Women are emotional beings operating in the moment. Also, mostly every woman now who is 40 or under has used either a dating website/swipe app at some point in the last 20 years and see her demand skyrocket. She also sees guys hitting her up on Instagram, Twitter, and LinkedIn. Her vagina is in demand.

If not for geriatric pregnancy and cratered smv wouldn't never change.

They can't compete and are forced to survive by shacking up with some cuck.
Her vagina is in demand. Women of near geriatric pregnancy age and geriatric pregnancy age are in huge demand on the apps. 33-40 year olds. Go look at an averge looking or better 35 year old woman's swipe queue.

While the vag may be in demand and there's a lot of beta demand for her, the men who want to commit to her often don't excite her.

The lesson is to not play house and to exit the west. The behavior of modern women isn't one of love nor liking men.
Yes. It's tough out there.

Those still married are often sexless and unhappy.
The broader stats indicate that. I have not seen that among my social circle. No one's social circles are representative of the population at large. Most of my social circle has been married for 5 years or less, though some are coming up on their 5th anniversaries. 5 years is long enough to exhibit some decline. I think a lot of married people are good at hiding their sexlessness and unhappiness to their social circles. One of my non-married friends in an LTR has told me about how the LTR has gone downhill, mainly the sex frequency.

The idea of cooking and cleaning is a stretch
Yet those attributes are so important. Years ago, I came up with a list of things I needed at the time in a relationship. This was that list.

1. Sex
2. Someone to bring to social functions
3. Companionship
4. Cooking and cleaning

At the time, there was a lot of social events in my social circle. It was miserable going to many of them unattached when most people were in couples. As time went on, there were fewer functions in my circle, even before the pandemic ended mass gatherings.

Cooking and cleaning seemed important to me. It still is. I've done a decent job cooking. I'm at least as good at cooking as most women I date or would date.

Most are throater material followed by a hard #next! The playbook is to act accordingly. I got my troll cannon charged up when she talks playing house and marriage.
True.
 

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This can happen to a guy who the woman expects to be a main provider. Dont be a provider.

When you get into a relationship, let the women know, one way or another, you are not there to be a major provider. You are THE MAN she wants, not an ATM or bill-payer, primarily. Today women are outperforming men at education and work. Just dont be a provider, be poor, dont flash you cash or success, dont be picked for your economic success, otherwise things will get bad when you either dont make as much, or she realises she can divroce rape you, or she thinks your career should be better after she has been promoted and is now making more.
This. Previously I was anti-marriage. However, my last relationship was with a woman who earned significantly more than me and I shifted my position. I would consider marriage if there was neutral or potential economic benefit for me. If income is at parity or I earn more, no chance.
 

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I’ll chime in on this thread….

Ever hear a woman describe a man as a “loser”?

What “loser” means to a woman is a man who is not resourceful and cannot keep what resources he has.

A “loser” is the worst thing a man can be called by a woman, it is even worst than being called a cheater.

Women are all about obtaining and having control of resources. It is biology.
Many people don't realize "loser" is a gendered term. How often have you heard a women referred to as one?
 

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True. Women are emotional beings operating in the moment. Also, mostly every woman now who is 40 or under has used either a dating website/swipe app at some point in the last 20 years and see her demand skyrocket. She also sees guys hitting her up on Instagram, Twitter, and LinkedIn. Her vagina is in demand
It's playing into
1. Female solipsism
2. Female logic
3. Victimhood once smv craters

It's the greatest con job. It's what Clarey refers to as operation evil. I almost respect the level of evil that's been pushed into society to wreck lives. I have 0 sympathy for the women nor the outcomes for ****ty outcomes.

Her vagina is in demand. Women of near geriatric pregnancy age and geriatric pregnancy age are in huge demand on the apps. 33-40 year olds. Go look at an averge looking or better 35 year old woman's swipe queue.
There's men who will bang lizo all 500lbs of her. Nobody even with that low a level of shame is Taking her seriously.

I don't disagree BUT it's a reason why I respect Troy pushing 50 but sourcing Hardee than your average horn 18 male. This is the level of sourcing that's necessary. You and I know that amount of Ls dudes take approaching.

Molyneux made AL FDR podcast on how to win with OLD. I bet he advised not to use it.

While the vag may be in demand and there's a lot of beta demand for her, the men who want to commit to her often don't excite her.
There's a reason why father's gave women away to wed and arranged marriages. Women make lousy decisions in mate choice, consumer purchase, education, and a number of things. Caring is overrated.

The times call for stoicism. I'm not kidding about enjoying the decline, watch the world burn, and pillage what you can. It's truly thar bad. Puas stated a 10% success rate back in 2010. It's far worse now and the caliber is way lower.

Yes. It's tough out there.

The broader stats indicate that. I have not seen that among my social circle. No one's social circles are representative of the population at large. Most of my social circle has been married for 5 years or less, though some are coming up on their 5th anniversaries. 5 years is long enough to exhibit some decline. I think a lot of married people are good at hiding their sexlessness and unhappiness to their social circles. One of my non-married friends in an LTR has told me about how the LTR has gone downhill, mainly the sex frequency.
The stats are absolutely appalling. 50% divorce rate. 80% + initated by women. Very few happily married. Women are typically post wall, 30+ ran through, and then seeking to play house. Not virgin nor low bodies. Marriage satisfaction is abysmal and yet dudes continue to sign up. No chance for change until it craters and it gets fixed. Not happening in our lifetime though I concede that it's ideal for children.

Yet those attributes are so important. Years ago, I came up with a list of things I needed at the time in a relationship. This was that list.

1. Sex
2. Someone to bring to social functions
3. Companionship
4. Cooking and cleaning

At the time, there was a lot of social events in my social circle. It was miserable going to many of them unattached when most people were in couples. As time went on, there were fewer functions in my circle, even before the pandemic ended mass gatherings.
I picked up two girls before the pandemic. Both foreign. Traditional and walking DHVs. It's absolutely absurd in contrast to the status quo here in the UK from a value offered as well as aesthetics, sex appeal, doling herself up, and bringing her best.

Don't get me wrong. Not saying that risks don't exist with foreign baeeeeees. I'm well aware. The risk IMHO is equally there with western modern women and dare I say worse with the proclivity of false rapey for not getting the ring.

Lulz I got receipts over a decade ago just cause female logic. I cannot stress it enough.

Cooking and cleaning seemed important to me. It still is. I've done a decent job cooking. I'm at least as good at cooking as most women I date or would date.



True.
If you mention you like XYZ food, item, whatever, etc does she make that dish? There's little tell tale signs of a keeper. They find longevity in a rotation having earned their keep.
 

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It's playing into
1. Female solipsism
2. Female logic
3. Victimhood once smv craters

It's the greatest con job. It's what Clarey refers to as operation evil. I almost respect the level of evil that's been pushed into society to wreck lives. I have 0 sympathy for the women nor the outcomes for ****ty outcomes.



There's men who will bang lizo all 500lbs of her. Nobody even with that low a level of shame is Taking her seriously.

I don't disagree BUT it's a reason why I respect Troy pushing 50 but sourcing Hardee than your average horn 18 male. This is the level of sourcing that's necessary. You and I know that amount of Ls dudes take approaching.

Molyneux made AL FDR podcast on how to win with OLD. I bet he advised not to use it.



There's a reason why father's gave women away to wed and arranged marriages. Women make lousy decisions in mate choice, consumer purchase, education, and a number of things. Caring is overrated.

The times call for stoicism. I'm not kidding about enjoying the decline, watch the world burn, and pillage what you can. It's truly thar bad. Puas stated a 10% success rate back in 2010. It's far worse now and the caliber is way lower.



The stats are absolutely appalling. 50% divorce rate. 80% + initated by women. Very few happily married. Women are typically post wall, 30+ ran through, and then seeking to play house. Not virgin nor low bodies. Marriage satisfaction is abysmal and yet dudes continue to sign up. No chance for change until it craters and it gets fixed. Not happening in our lifetime though I concede that it's ideal for children.



I picked up two girls before the pandemic. Both foreign. Traditional and walking DHVs. It's absolutely absurd in contrast to the status quo here in the UK from a value offered as well as aesthetics, sex appeal, doling herself up, and bringing her best.

Don't get me wrong. Not saying that risks don't exist with foreign baeeeeees. I'm well aware. The risk IMHO is equally there with western modern women and dare I say worse with the proclivity of false rapey for not getting the ring.

Lulz I got receipts over a decade ago just cause female logic. I cannot stress it enough.



If you mention you like XYZ food, item, whatever, etc does she make that dish? There's little tell tale signs of a keeper. They find longevity in a rotation having earned their keep.
Too much truth in 1 post
 

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Ever hear a woman describe a man as a “loser”?

What “loser” means to a woman is a man who is not resourceful and cannot keep what resources he has.
Exact-fvcking-ly. 100%
 

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Sorry but that is not the truth. Game works fine on its own in your younger years. However, a $40,000 / year earner over about 35 years old quickly becomes invisible to most women. Lifestyle cannot completely be hidden.

Men, this stuff matters.




They all have this expectation; including the feminists. It is a biological inclination.

Feminists even with their fancy careers still expect men to out-earn them.
a 40k earner (which is about £30k earner) will still have relevance to some women. Some fairly wealthy women choose men who decorate their arm. I know at least 2 solicitor women who have guys who are soldiers or gardeners but in their world, that dude is a catch.

generally though, you are correct.

to be fair, if your a man, and past your mid 30s, you’re only earning such terrible money if you’re either lazy, or stupid. The former I have no sympathy. The latter, I have sympathy for.

I feel for dudes who weren’t blessed with Iq.

being honest, if I lost my career and couldn’t earn £60k+ I’d probably end up in crime. A life on $40k isn’t worth living and it’s worth the risk.
 

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a 40k earner (which is about £30k earner) will still have relevance to some women. Some fairly wealthy women choose men who decorate their arm. I know at least 2 solicitor women who have guys who are soldiers or gardeners but in their world, that dude is a catch.

generally though, you are correct.

to be fair, if your a man, and past your mid 30s, you’re only earning such terrible money if you’re either lazy, or stupid. The former I have no sympathy. The latter, I have sympathy for.

I feel for dudes who weren’t blessed with Iq.

being honest, if I lost my career and couldn’t earn £60k+ I’d probably end up in crime. A life on $40k isn’t worth living and it’s worth the risk.
It's dependent on variables. If you live in Des Moines or Tulsa, own your home outright and have no debt or dependents, 40k really isn't that bad.
 

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Recently my Relative announced that his wife is leaving him, 1.5 months ago he lost his job because the firm he was working for went bankrupt due to the pandemic (the economy is not in good shape). Obviously it's hard to find a new job with the virus around and restrictions for everything. They have been married for 15 years and she works in a super market.

I just understand why she decided to end a 15 year marriage because her husband lost his job and couldn't find a new one. This seems to be a common theme with women as well since i have heard about it before.

Why do women do this?
There are poor men and women all over the world who are married. It depends on her class. But then again nature often dictates an upgrade for her if her culture does not have huge repercussions for doing so.
Risk reward. But then again there are prisoners getting more poon attention then all the members here combined.
 

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Recently my Relative announced that his wife is leaving him, 1.5 months ago he lost his job because the firm he was working for went bankrupt due to the pandemic (the economy is not in good shape). Obviously it's hard to find a new job with the virus around and restrictions for everything. They have been married for 15 years and she works in a super market.

I just understand why she decided to end a 15 year marriage because her husband lost his job and couldn't find a new one. This seems to be a common theme with women as well since i have heard about it before.

Why do women do this?
I think she probably wants to be ordered to pay him maintenance and child support.
 

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Too much truth in 1 post
females choose and males perform

this is the truth about most species living in this world . Natural selection

since we live in a capitalist world , money is important in LTRs as the final output should be a child that needs resources to develop

it is not a hookup up where money is not that relevant , and where other things are way more relevant ( logistics , your fundamentals , her mood , etc )
 

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females choose and males perform

this is the truth about most species living in this world . Natural selection

since we live in a capitalist world , money is important in LTRs as the final output should be a child that needs resources to develop

it is not a hookup up where money is not that relevant , and where other things are way more relevant ( logistics , your fundamentals , her mood , etc )
I think the bigger issue at play here is that the men at the very top of the pyramid have destroyed the market for 99.9% of men.

The manosphere is going to have to eventually come to terms with this. Everything that's wrong with the world now has been written into law (by men) - divorce laws, sexual assault laws, domestic violence hysteria etc etc all serve to massively alienate the sexes, by design.

And it's going to get ugly because I am quite sure there's a reckoning coming for the social engineers who have been purposefully de-sexing and de-gendering everyone. Probably not in our lifetime though the way things are going. As Deezbrah says, enjoy the decline.
 

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I think the bigger issue at play here is that the men at the very top of the pyramid have destroyed the market for 99.9% of men.

The manosphere is going to have to eventually come to terms with this. Everything that's wrong with the world now has been written into law (by men) - divorce laws, sexual assault laws, domestic violence hysteria etc etc all serve to massively alienate the sexes, by design.

And it's going to get ugly because I am quite sure there's a reckoning coming for the social engineers who have been purposefully de-sexing and de-gendering everyone. Probably not in our lifetime though the way things are going. As Deezbrah says, enjoy the decline.
What's the deal with the de-gendering? I'm far further left than your average Sosauve poster, and even I have long since given up trying to keep up with this stuff. Seems every week there's a new gender identity.
 
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