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Why Do Women Break Up With Guys Who Lose Their Jobs

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What's the deal with the de-gendering? I'm far further left than your average Sosauve poster, and even I have long since given up trying to keep up with this stuff. Seems every week there's a new gender identity.
It's another means of control by the elite. It's similar to a divide and conquer strategy, except it is being done between men and women, and within individuals by attacking healthy physiology.
 

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What's the deal with the de-gendering? I'm far further left than your average Sosauve poster, and even I have long since given up trying to keep up with this stuff. Seems every week there's a new gender identity.
The goal is to de-sex us. It’s a removal of gender polarity. It’s part of their goals around destroying the family unit and atomising everyone. It’s evil stuff.
 

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Recently my Relative announced that his wife is leaving him, 1.5 months ago he lost his job because the firm he was working for went bankrupt due to the pandemic (the economy is not in good shape). Obviously it's hard to find a new job with the virus around and restrictions for everything. They have been married for 15 years and she works in a super market.

I just understand why she decided to end a 15 year marriage because her husband lost his job and couldn't find a new one. This seems to be a common theme with women as well since i have heard about it before.

Why do women do this?
Likely it was the last straw in a relationship that has been going downhill for quite some time. Unless you live in the house, people really have no idea about others relationships and where they are in them. People tend to put on a good outside face to others when they are around.

I highly doubt this woman just left him simply because he has been unemployed for 1.5 months. In fact, I pretty much know she didn't. The relationship was in the dumpster for several years now most likely and that was the catalyst for a change to be made.
 

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Women today have endless options. They have no patience for any sort of inconvenience or hard work.

Every white collar man who is laid off can expect to lose his girlfriend or wife as a result of a job loss. If you have a wife, you have more time. If you have a girlfriend, she will depart faster. A white collar job search takes anywhere from 3-9 months.

Blue collar men and low wage service sector workers have it easier in this regard. Women who date blue collar men and men with McJobs tend to care a little less about employment, especially if you happen to be a tattooed dirtbag.
I do still think it's weird they don't stick around, do they expect a guy who loses his job to magically find a new one the next day?
Women have somewhat unreal expectations surrounding job searches and job losses. It's not entirely their faults though, as women are rarely victims of job losses. Women with bachelor's degrees or higher working white collar jobs are unlikely to lose their jobs.

Women work white collar jobs more than blue collar jobs. This is relevant because the nature of job losses tends to be different in white collar environments as compared to blue collar environments.

In white collar work, there are few terminations for behavior reasons since white collar workers tend to not have attendance, behavioral, or other disciplinary issues. It's way more common for those in blue collar to have drug abuse issues, theft issues, attendance issues, or other things. In white collar work, there are occasional employee performance issues but that's often the fault of the employer for hiring someone who wasn't going to be a good fit for the job. That's also not even close to the majority of terminations in white collar work. The majority of terminations in white collar work are not the fault of the employee at all. The majority of terminations in white collar work are usually the fault of executive management of that organization devising poor business strategy and implementing that strategy through faulty tactics.

When there are white collar layoffs due to the ineptitude of executive management, they are often executed in a politically correct manner. White males are laid off first. Women are rarely victims of white collar layoffs. On the occasions where women are laid off, it is because the company is in such poor shape that they had no choice but to get rid of lesser performing women after ditching the non-protected white male class.

When women are laid off in white collar, they also have shorter job searches because there are diversity initiatives to help them get hired faster. This is true for both white women and non-white women.

I have had job interviews in the past where I passed over for hiring in favor of a female with lesser qualifications. It's easy to find out who gets hired when you don't for white collar jobs. You go on LinkedIn and see who was hired a few weeks later if you don't hear anything.

Blue collar job terminations are more often the result of the employee themselves, but can still happen due to inept management. Since women mostly don't work blue collar jobs, this doesn't affect them.

When a white collar man loses his job, he has a longer job search to replace the job. Additionally, white collar men get more of their perceived SMV from their income and a lot of them are boring, provider type beta males. Women ditch beta males when they have no utility to them. Beta males are useless when unemployed.

Blue collar males often don't have their SMV tied as closely to their employment, so they can get away with being unemployed and can keep their women attracted. Of course, the types of women blue collar men date are different than the ones white collar men date. You're not that likely to see a female lawyer dating an HVAC repairman. A female marketing or HR professional is likely dating some white collar guy and not an auto mechanic. An auto mechanic is more likely to be dating a woman who works at Walgreens at the store level than a corporate Walgreens person.

Likely it was the last straw in a relationship that has been going downhill for quite some time. Unless you live in the house, people really have no idea about others relationships and where they are in them. People tend to put on a good outside face to others when they are around.

I highly doubt this woman just left him simply because he has been unemployed for 1.5 months. In fact, I pretty much know she didn't. The relationship was in the dumpster for several years now most likely and that was the catalyst for a change to be made.
I agree with this assessment. 1.5 months is also nothing in a job search. There were people out of work 1-3 years due to the late 2000s/early 2010s recession. 2020-2021 saw a lot of 6-12 month periods of unemployment too.
 

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Women have somewhat unreal expectations surrounding job searches and job losses. It's not entirely their faults though, as women are rarely victims of job losses. Women with bachelor's degrees or higher working white collar jobs are unlikely to lose their jobs.

Women work white collar jobs more than blue collar jobs. This is relevant because the nature of job losses tends to be different in white collar environments as compared to blue collar environments.

In white collar work, there are few terminations for behavior reasons since white collar workers tend to not have attendance, behavioral, or other disciplinary issues. It's way more common for those in blue collar to have drug abuse issues, theft issues, attendance issues, or other things. In white collar work, there are occasional employee performance issues but that's often the fault of the employer for hiring someone who wasn't going to be a good fit for the job. That's also not even close to the majority of terminations in white collar work. The majority of terminations in white collar work are not the fault of the employee at all. The majority of terminations in white collar work are usually the fault of executive management of that organization devising poor business strategy and implementing that strategy through faulty tactics.

When there are white collar layoffs due to the ineptitude of executive management, they are often executed in a politically correct manner. White males are laid off first. Women are rarely victims of white collar layoffs. On the occasions where women are laid off, it is because the company is in such poor shape that they had no choice but to get rid of lesser performing women after ditching the non-protected white male class.

When women are laid off in white collar, they also have shorter job searches because there are diversity initiatives to help them get hired faster. This is true for both white women and non-white women.

I have had job interviews in the past where I passed over for hiring in favor of a female with lesser qualifications. It's easy to find out who gets hired when you don't for white collar jobs. You go on LinkedIn and see who was hired a few weeks later if you don't hear anything.

Blue collar job terminations are more often the result of the employee themselves, but can still happen due to inept management. Since women mostly don't work blue collar jobs, this doesn't affect them.

When a white collar man loses his job, he has a longer job search to replace the job. Additionally, white collar men get more of their perceived SMV from their income and a lot of them are boring, provider type beta males. Women ditch beta males when they have no utility to them. Beta males are useless when unemployed.

Blue collar males often don't have their SMV tied as closely to their employment, so they can get away with being unemployed and can keep their women attracted. Of course, the types of women blue collar men date are different than the ones white collar men date. You're not that likely to see a female lawyer dating an HVAC repairman. A female marketing or HR professional is likely dating some white collar guy and not an auto mechanic. An auto mechanic is more likely to be dating a woman who works at Walgreens at the store level than a corporate Walgreens person.



I agree with this assessment. 1.5 months is also nothing in a job search. There were people out of work 1-3 years due to the late 2000s/early 2010s recession. 2020-2021 saw a lot of 6-12 month periods of unemployment too.
Step back and big picture for a moment - women shouldn’t even be in the work force if we actually want proper gender polarity that’s sexy for men and women.

Women working has totally nuked Provider Game (which is the only Game that most guys have).
 

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Step back and big picture for a moment - women shouldn’t even be in the work force if we actually want proper gender polarity that’s sexy for men and women.

Women working has totally nuked Provider Game (which is the only Game that most guys have).
I agree about women in the workforce.

If you look at the game style most men ran from 1945-1979 in Western nations, it was provider game. This was starting to change in the 1970s as women were entering the work force for more. Provider game didn't entirely lose its effectiveness until 1990. Depending on our ages, most of our fathers, uncles, great uncles, and grandfathers ran some sort of provider game and it was effective for them. Men born after 1970 couldn't run this style of game as effectively. The guys that did run provider game who were born in the 1970s might have gotten married but later divorced from it. Few men born in the 1980s could run provider game and get the results of out of it that their fathers got.
 

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I agree about women in the workforce.

If you look at the game style most men ran from 1945-1979 in Western nations, it was provider game. This was starting to change in the 1970s as women were entering the work force for more. Provider game didn't entirely lose its effectiveness until 1990. Depending on our ages, most of our fathers, uncles, great uncles, and grandfathers ran some sort of provider game and it was effective for them. Men born after 1970 couldn't run this style of game as effectively. The guys that did run provider game who were born in the 1970s might have gotten married but later divorced from it. Few men born in the 1980s could run provider game and get the results of out of it that their fathers got.
it goes to my original thesis. And I appear to be the only one talking about this.

The men at the very top of the pyramid have fvcked up the market for 99.99% of men with this stuff.

In my very humble opinion, this is the only issue that men face now. What to do about this issue of the top men purposefully sabotaging us with these fake civil rights c0ck blocking moves.
 

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Women will pick you if they like you. You can be low-earning but have good qualities. I think thats the best option for men. Have an easy life, easy job, maybe work part-time. A professional career takes a lot of emotional and mental energy from the man, he doesnt keep his eye on the relationship, and the women takes full-advantage to take control and take what she wants and discard him.

For men, I would just advocate part-time work and some side businesses, focus on happiness not money, do not try to use money or financial success to impress women, this path will lead to some serious problems.
This is very interesting. You have a point. When a women really likes a man she will buy things for him. She will let him use her car etc. This is the epitome of visceral attraction. This usually only lasts for a relatively short time.

EyeBRollin also has a point. We all know that status and resources are of supreme importance to women also.
 

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That is how it works in traditional Patriarchy. In 'natural' societies though, it is more communal, so there is no marriage system, like with most animals, or the Matriarchal (kinda flat, non-Patriarchal) systems like the Mosuo in China.

We are now moving away from Patriarchy, but its **** for men cos we have the worst of both Patriarchy and the Natural system, we are expected to work hard and 'provide' as in the Patriarchy, but we have no power or respect.

Basically the Natural system, I argue it is superior to Patriarchy. It's like the Mosuo, or like animals. All the men work and contribute to the society, the women work too. Women can have relationships and children with anyone they want. Men do not provide anything directly to the women they are in relationships with. We are sort of halfway there with state benefits and such where men are paying more taxes and women apparantly receive more benefits.

Also, women really have an ego thing where the modern woman doesnt want to stay at home, be outearned by her husband, they wanna be the boss, modern women will not be good obedient wives just cos you provide, but they will just think you are lucky to have her and she wont appreciate your providing at all. Just bear that in mind. Modern women do not want to feel beneath their husbands, she will try to outcompete you if you outearn her, or look down on you if you dont earn enough.

For the woman, everything is about ego and self-image. It's all about her success, her achievements, her house and her family, you are just some guy in her life story that helps with the bills. So just go with it, your efforts as a hardworking husband provider will never be appreciated in the long term by modern women. You will expect something in return for being that guy and she will resent giving it to you.

The solution is to bring other things to the table so that your earnings are not the main thing she appreciates about you. To do that you need to focus more on those things and less on financial success.
Man i made a post about the non monogamous natural way of life. I got a lot of heat for it. I was trying to explain that in communal living situations ( tribal units), most of these problems disappear.

Women we're ultimately not made to be property. They were also not made to be directly cared for by only ONE man. Patriarchy is a necessity in civilization though. Because civilization is the anti thesis of communal.

These heuxs were designed to be for everyone. This is why they act like they are for everyone. It hurts to me type this but the truth is the truth.
 

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Women working has totally nuked Provider Game (which is the only Game that most guys have).
Wrong. All men have true game at their fingertips but years of conditioning has made them ball-less.

my advice, and it costs nothing, is for beta men to forget about pvssy, go out and compete in a sport or climb a mountain or accomplish a goal. Then go to a high class bar, ask the bartender for a whisky, relax and sit back in your chair and bask your accomplishments, and see what happens.
 

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Wrong. All men have true game at their fingertips but years of conditioning has made them ball-less.

my advice, and it costs nothing, is for beta men to forget about pvssy, go out and compete in a sport or climb a mountain or accomplish a goal. Then go to a high class bar, ask the bartender for a whisky, relax and sit back in your chair and bask your accomplishments, and see what happens.
You appear to be wrong about this - most men can't control their sexual urges, and this has been the key issue. It's obvious. It is purely through lack of Game and a man's inability to put aside sexual urges that cloud him and make his life a failure, and see things clearly - big picture stuff. Men, if they aren't careful, can spend their entire lives playing with their own d1cks and sending d1ck pics to people.

We have always known this stuff about men. That's why things like monasteries etc were invented. It you want a man to be a powerhouse of cerebral masculinity, he has to have women very low on his list of priorities. And this is automatic anyway because guys like this are already abundant and it feeds itself.
 

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You appear to be wrong about this - most men can't control their sexual urges, and this has been the key issue. It's obvious. It is purely through lack of Game and a man's inability to put aside sexual urges that cloud him and make his life a failure, and see things clearly - big picture stuff. Men, if they aren't careful, can spend their entire lives playing with their own d1cks and sending d1ck pics to people.

We have always known this stuff about men. That's why things like monasteries etc were invented. It you want a man to be a powerhouse of cerebral masculinity, he has to have women very low on his list of priorities. And this is automatic anyway because guys like this are already abundant and it feeds itself.
That’s what I said. Men should go out; create and accomplish things. Ascend to leadership. Women are not the priority, and then inevitably they show up at the finish line as you cultivate your aura and build a portfolio of accolades.
 

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That’s what I said. Men should go out; create and accomplish things. Ascend to leadership. Women are not the priority, and then inevitably they show up at the finish line as you cultivate your aura and build a portfolio of accolades.
Thats the ideal isn’t it?

But in practise most men spend their entire lives playing with their own chodes, flexing in the mirror and begging for puss.
 

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That’s what I said. Men should go out; create and accomplish things. Ascend to leadership. Women are not the priority, and then inevitably they show up at the finish line as you cultivate your aura and build a portfolio of accolades.
I mentioned in an earlier post on another thread, that I'm about 90% MGTOW. This is how men should operate.

Men, for the love of God, stop chasing tail.
 

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I mentioned in an earlier post on another thread, that I'm about 90% MGTOW. This is how men should operate.

Men, for the love of God, stop chasing tail.
Original meaning of MGTOW was never volcel.. A volcel is MGTOW, but not all MGTOW are volcels.
 

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I used to work in technology, it was a known fact that the woman at humongous tech company (i worked for) that had access to the financials databases look at men’s wages to select who to pursue. They called it “FEP” (they were in their late 20’s looking to get hitched), future earnings potential.
 
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