"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Who's now part of the mg t o w movement
- Thread starter eli77
- Start date
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Plinco
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There's a lot of different counter cultures out there now. There's counter cultures to counter cultures.
My take on the men going their own way, like every other philosophy out there it suffers from it's own bias, but some parts of it are useful.
Very saturated reddit
Woujo
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I can kind of understanding not wanting to get married, but completely cutting women out of your life is loser ****. You can easily have a stress-free, fun relationship with a woman if you don't act like a *****.
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
SW15
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Agree. MGTOW is a fast growing segment as male sexlessness rates continue to climb.
Plinco
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I think this is true in many cases, but sometimes it is wise in a person's development to avoid partners. Some tidbits from MGTOW are useful in some circumstances. Context says a lot.
Woujo
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Eh, its probably not worth digging through the **** to find a few diamonds.
zekko
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Some people claim being MGTOW doesn't entail cutting women out of your life. I wish they'd get their definition down.
If you're going to go MGTOW might as well own it.
"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
BackInTheGame78
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What do you prescribe to?
I went through a period where I got 10 women out (bare in mind the investment this takes with these wishy washy lunatics)
I didnt get a lay from one of them, at least 7 had an ex in the picture, the other 3 were trash.
Point being Im not a loser, but it put me off women for around 2 years, I can see where these guys are coming from, especially with child maintenance in the USA
BackInTheGame78
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Being fun and exciting and knowing how to converse and turn women on via text and in person.
lost_blackbird
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And those of us that don't and will never have those qualities?
"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
Kotaix
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You seriously think that you can't learn anything new and no women will ever be attracted to you?
Hamurabimbi
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Hamurabimbi
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Yes. He does.
FlexpertHamilton
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Lmao reddit is the opposite of counter culture, it's all hiveminded leftist simps who do nothing but complain about their life.
"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.