"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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When was this forum made?

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The farthest back I've seen posts from here is from early 2001. I'm just a tad bit curious :)
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Yeah, but there was a server crash or something and they lost the posts from before then.........

I'm curious too :D
 

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And how come it turned out as it did? The front page wasn't all special, but it attracted a lot of really amazing guys like Anti-Dump and so on, and made the word "DJ" mean something more than "PUA"... what I'm wondering is was it by invite, did Allen already know some of these guys, or was it just chance.. or what?
 

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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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ah the ode to the old webpage.

comic_relief
 

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I remember signing up for the DJ tips via e-mail back in 2000. Got cut off because I couldn't think of anything to contribute within 6 months!
 

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Jeez...Desdinova thanks for posting the pic up. My god. Didn't realize how much it changed. Used to spend hours in 2001 reading hundreds of articles (and it did me so much good haha) until my father checked the history and saw i was on this site. Followed by a 1 hour lecture on how this is not the way to act and trying to be a DJ is wrong....*sigh*...good times
 

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bit off topic guys, but would you say this forum has gone downhill from the beginning, i know i wasnt around then but reading posts from back then there was a real determination to help each other, now it seems like everyones trying to prove they're the best by belittling other members and their even seems to be more negative posts from when i joined a little less than a year ago

what do you guys think?
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Latinoman said:
What is Allen's ID?
SoSuave.com

Funny tidbit: Until he deleted it, he actually had a second Admin account using his real name. Didn't have any posts though.
 

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playa99 said:
bit off topic guys, but would you say this forum has gone downhill from the beginning, i know i wasnt around then but reading posts from back then there was a real determination to help each other, now it seems like everyones trying to prove they're the best by belittling other members and their even seems to be more negative posts from when i joined a little less than a year ago

what do you guys think?

Pheh, it's been said often enough; I think this forum's just passed through the stage of maturity where people don't all know each other anymore, and you get the good stuff watered down a bit.

It's still a cool forum. For its size, it's matured well I'd say.
 

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Desdinova said:
The front page looked different than it does now. From what I can recall, it was black with mostly text.

http://web.archive.org/web/20000511071149/http://www.sosuave.com/
Hey I actually remember that black front page. I joined in May 2003, do you know when it was changed?

playa99 said:
bit off topic guys, but would you say this forum has gone downhill from the beginning, i know i wasnt around then but reading posts from back then there was a real determination to help each other, now it seems like everyones trying to prove they're the best by belittling other members and their even seems to be more negative posts from when i joined a little less than a year ago
I'm with Gubby, the site has grown & matured. With everything else in life, you lose aspects when you grow, there are advantages and disadvantages. The biggest advantage is more people are getting help and utilizing the knowledge contained herein. The downside is the haters, jealousy etc...
 

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Hey I actually remember that black front page. I joined in May 2003, do you know when it was changed?
I think it changed when we got our current version of vBulletin. Don't quote me on that though, I rarely visit the main page.

Remember that chick in the upper left-hand corner that everyone said wasn't hot enough? It was really irritating seeing posts about that every goddam week.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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:) interesting stuff ^^

Hey I noticed people were posting on the "unusual techniques in seduction" forum nowadays.. but it's totally hidden as far as I can see, what gives?
 

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Gubby said:
LOL speaking of SS's murky past, I was digging and found mysteriously some posts were in a SHADOW FORUM which no longer exists!! :eek:

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=22

"Unusual techniques in seduction"!
So what?

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=23

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=18

Don't forget ones that don't have links anymore: The "23 and Up" Mature Man forum, the "jokes and humor" forum, and the "bars and clubs" forum.
 

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Haha interesting. I remember the old front page and bible. As well as the old forums they look terrible now :p lol the 'Don Juan Centre'.

Forums and bible are better than the main page in my opinion, although that can be good too. I'm well past the need to read much now though.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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