"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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When was this forum made?

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The farthest back I've seen posts from here is from early 2001. I'm just a tad bit curious :)
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Yeah, but there was a server crash or something and they lost the posts from before then.........

I'm curious too :D
 

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And how come it turned out as it did? The front page wasn't all special, but it attracted a lot of really amazing guys like Anti-Dump and so on, and made the word "DJ" mean something more than "PUA"... what I'm wondering is was it by invite, did Allen already know some of these guys, or was it just chance.. or what?
 

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"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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ah the ode to the old webpage.

comic_relief
 

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I remember signing up for the DJ tips via e-mail back in 2000. Got cut off because I couldn't think of anything to contribute within 6 months!
 

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Jeez...Desdinova thanks for posting the pic up. My god. Didn't realize how much it changed. Used to spend hours in 2001 reading hundreds of articles (and it did me so much good haha) until my father checked the history and saw i was on this site. Followed by a 1 hour lecture on how this is not the way to act and trying to be a DJ is wrong....*sigh*...good times
 

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bit off topic guys, but would you say this forum has gone downhill from the beginning, i know i wasnt around then but reading posts from back then there was a real determination to help each other, now it seems like everyones trying to prove they're the best by belittling other members and their even seems to be more negative posts from when i joined a little less than a year ago

what do you guys think?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Latinoman said:
What is Allen's ID?
SoSuave.com

Funny tidbit: Until he deleted it, he actually had a second Admin account using his real name. Didn't have any posts though.
 

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playa99 said:
bit off topic guys, but would you say this forum has gone downhill from the beginning, i know i wasnt around then but reading posts from back then there was a real determination to help each other, now it seems like everyones trying to prove they're the best by belittling other members and their even seems to be more negative posts from when i joined a little less than a year ago

what do you guys think?

Pheh, it's been said often enough; I think this forum's just passed through the stage of maturity where people don't all know each other anymore, and you get the good stuff watered down a bit.

It's still a cool forum. For its size, it's matured well I'd say.
 

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Desdinova said:
The front page looked different than it does now. From what I can recall, it was black with mostly text.

http://web.archive.org/web/20000511071149/http://www.sosuave.com/
Hey I actually remember that black front page. I joined in May 2003, do you know when it was changed?

playa99 said:
bit off topic guys, but would you say this forum has gone downhill from the beginning, i know i wasnt around then but reading posts from back then there was a real determination to help each other, now it seems like everyones trying to prove they're the best by belittling other members and their even seems to be more negative posts from when i joined a little less than a year ago
I'm with Gubby, the site has grown & matured. With everything else in life, you lose aspects when you grow, there are advantages and disadvantages. The biggest advantage is more people are getting help and utilizing the knowledge contained herein. The downside is the haters, jealousy etc...
 

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Hey I actually remember that black front page. I joined in May 2003, do you know when it was changed?
I think it changed when we got our current version of vBulletin. Don't quote me on that though, I rarely visit the main page.

Remember that chick in the upper left-hand corner that everyone said wasn't hot enough? It was really irritating seeing posts about that every goddam week.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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:) interesting stuff ^^

Hey I noticed people were posting on the "unusual techniques in seduction" forum nowadays.. but it's totally hidden as far as I can see, what gives?
 

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Gubby said:
LOL speaking of SS's murky past, I was digging and found mysteriously some posts were in a SHADOW FORUM which no longer exists!! :eek:

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=22

"Unusual techniques in seduction"!
So what?

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=23

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=18

Don't forget ones that don't have links anymore: The "23 and Up" Mature Man forum, the "jokes and humor" forum, and the "bars and clubs" forum.
 

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Haha interesting. I remember the old front page and bible. As well as the old forums they look terrible now :p lol the 'Don Juan Centre'.

Forums and bible are better than the main page in my opinion, although that can be good too. I'm well past the need to read much now though.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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