When starting out, should I start with 5s and go from there?

[Nikw]

For folks like myself who're new to gaming girls / PUA, should I start trying to pick up those 5/10 chicks, then 6, then 7 etc.? Or do most people here go straight to 8 & 9s?

 

[Desdinova]

Start wherever you like. The best thing I can tell you is if you can seduce a 5, you'll be able to seduce a 9. Women are attracted to the same things regardless of their looks. Also, don't be afraid to go outside your comfort zone. That's the only real way to break your mental barriers.

As long as you get out into the field and start practising, that's all that counts. Practice makes perfect, and you'll eventually be slaying any woman your heart desires.

 

[devilkingx2]

If you can do better do better, but if you can't then even a 5 is a worthwhile achievement.

No sense in hitting on 8s if you can't get them, but no point in practicing on 5s if you can easily get 7s

 

[Desdinova]

No sense in hitting on 8s if you can't get them, but no point in practicing on 5s if you can easily get 7s

I think he's looking for a place to start. Men are naturally intimidated by a woman's looks, so a 5 is less intimidating than an 8. If he wants to start at 5s and work his way up, then it's certainly better than sitting on sosuave and making up reasons why he can't get women

 

[Mike32ct]

Talk to different ones and see who responds positively to you. Don’t screen purely by looks number.

 

[QuadDeuces]

5’s are usually more difficult to seduce because they have low self esteem and are damaged from being dumped all the time. Also they sense you really arent into them.
Hotter chicks are ironically easier to bone because they love being wanted by men, and also getting laid isnt a big event for them anymore.

In my experience its easier to bone an instagram model than a down syndromer.

 

[logicallefty]

I for sure agree with this. Start with a level you can achieve success with, and move up from there. Even a 1 if you reeeeEALLY have to, although you shouldn't. 5 is a good starting point for most anyone. You don't have to marry it. I mean her.

Also, for guys who struggle extra hard with confidence talking to women, ok fine, start by talking to other guys just as a confidence builder. Of course not to score with them but just to get in the habit of starting conversation and running with it. Then when that gets easier, move to women.

 

[skinnyguy]

PUA's approach anything that has legs, so they will even bang 2's.

 

[The Duke]

When I first started out I went with the ones that showed me high interest. The first girl I went out with post divorce was a HB9. I was very persistent and showed lots of interest, but I was clueless and that deal went nowhere fast. After that I went with the ones that were below my SMV......A few HB6's and mostly HB7's.

For me there was much less pressure when I knew I was better than the girl I was with. My confidence was way higher because I didn't care. I basically used the HB6's and 7's to learn what I needed to learn, and perfect my skills. As time went on I the quality and looks of the women I dated got better because I became a better man with more skills.

Its important to build a good foundation first! These days I only date HB8's with good jobs that bring something to the table. The HB9's I dated had mental issues. HB9's that are mentally healthy seem very rare or maybe I'm not good enough to get them!

I'd recommend a "quantity" not "quality" approach until you get your feet off the ground.

Another thing I learned along the way was once I fuhked my first 3 HB9's several times I realized there was nothing special about them. I treat them just like I do anything else.

 

[SgtSplacker]

When you rank women based on looks alone you may be short changing yourself. There are 10s out there that think they are 5s and those can be the absolute best ones.

 

[devilkingx2]

I think he's looking for a place to start. Men are naturally intimidated by a woman's looks, so a 5 is less intimidating than an 8. If he wants to start at 5s and work his way up, then it's certainly better than sitting on sosuave and making up reasons why he can't get women

True But everyone starts the game somewhere different, perhaps OP is a badass and can already get 8's once he tries, perhaps OP has a long road ahead of him and needs to start with women who weigh at least 200.

I know when i started i thought getting a girl's number was supposed to be an achievement but i found it effortless to get real numbers (but impossible to get texts back)

 

[ubercat]

If you have to start with 200 pound woman I'd suggest don't start. That would point to the need for some serious self-improvement.

I'm an unrelenting fan of the hb7. Cute enough to get you hard, be seen in public with and you won't cops sh1t from your mates. Not damaged goods and less princess syndrome. And even better if they have a hard working but practical job like hairdressing or nursing which will keep them grounded. So given my other tastes it will come as no shock that I'm currently in an ltr with an hb 7 Asian nurse. Although that's not giving her enough credit because she has done postgrad and is transitioning. We're actually currently learning to play the stock market together.

 

[resilient]

Welcome to the forum, @Nikw.

Lots of good advice in this thread already.

Ok, when you're ready, let's get you primed for the big leagues (the HB7-10s).

What's your current SMV in the big three? In other words, what do you bring to the table? What needs your attention?

-Looks
-Personality
-Finance

Aim to improve the gaps in those three categories while you're out hunting and you'll improve your batting average in the plates you land.

 

[guru1000]

The HB9's I dated had mental issues. HB9's that are mentally healthy seem very rare or maybe I'm not good enough to get them!

I agree with this. Most 9s/10s struggle with deeper insecurity issues stemming from their need for validation, which predominantly defines them.

I recently found one who seems well adjusted. Only time will tell ...

 

[Nikw]

Thanks for the insight guys, appreciate it. Actually, 5s and 6s are actually not that difficult to game, tbh.
The problem with them is that I've no motivation to really talk to them (due to their looks lol)

What's your current SMV in the big three?
In other words, what do you bring to the table? What needs your attention?
-Looks
-Personality
-Finance

IMO, my weakest part right now is Finance, which I'm working on now and giving myself a 5-year plan for that.

Is it true that if a guy earns a lot / rich, he doesn't need any game? As in, game/pua becomes irrelevant once you've $$$?
(e.g: go tinder / okcupid and showoff your aston martin / lambo that sort of thing, and HB8s will come flocking to you? lol)

Sometimes I was thinking that if by earning a lot and that can get me girls with less effort, I might as well focus less on pua stuff and work harder on my career!

 

[devilkingx2]

Thanks for the insight guys, appreciate it. Actually, 5s and 6s are actually not that difficult to game, tbh.
The problem with them is that I've no motivation to really talk to them (due to their looks lol)

sounds like you're ready to move up to 7's

 

[user43770]

There are 10s out there that think they are 5s

No there aren't.

 

[user43770]

Nikw, there's no shame in banging 6's. I still do it and will continue to, as long as they get me excited enough.

Any guy that says he only bangs 9's and 10's is full of sh1t.

 

[devilkingx2]

No there aren't.

there are but probably to a much lesser extent than that

a legit 10 who legit thinks she's a 5 would either be surrounded by supermodels and think she's average or someone with crippling mental/self esteem issues making them extremely easy to bang but impossible to deal with personality-wise

 

[user43770]

there are but probably to a much lesser extent than that

a legit 10 who legit thinks she's a 5 would either be surrounded by supermodels and think she's average or someone with crippling mental/self esteem issues making them extremely easy to bang but impossible to deal with personality-wise

That's a unicorn.

When you speak of 9's and 10's, you're referring to the hottest chicks walking around. And if they're that hot, they get reminded of it countless times every day. It doesn't have to be guys approaching them either, it could be through social media or just men awkwardly gawking at them everywhere they go.

Everybody has insecurities, even the hottest women out there, but deep down most people know their status in the sexual market place.