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What's up with the proliferation of incel slang on this forum?

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That's possible (maybe) with online dating. However, I'm not using online dating so that metric doesn't work with me. When dealing with cashiers and possibly a weak limited social circle that consists of people who may know you inside the store you are shopping in that are employed there, you don't have 30 or 50. You may get one or two people (if extremely lucky at that) where there is an awesome rapport, or you have to work-up the rapport volume with others over time.
Then you need to put yourself in places where there is volume. There is no getting around this. You will have to figure out how.
 

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It's a good thing you made this thread because there was a certain term that was being used a lot by certain members that kinda annoyed me.

'Chad-lite'

I don't even know what the f*ck that means.
 

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So everyone is a new poster. Come on, you get chronic posts like this all the time.
True - generally from new posters. Most long-time members are not pining after low-interest women.

Having a better attitude would probably be a good starting point for you. You are probably the most negative person on this forum - and that is saying something. But the worst part is that whenever someone offers a suggestion to you you already have a list of excuses ready to go for why their advice doesn't work. You then go a step further and state that this is some universal issue in the dating world when in fact it isn't. Such as earlier in this thread -- that self-improvement will not improve your dating prospects. Which is patently false.
 

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It's not just on this forum, incel slang is sweeping across the internet. Even on finance reddits, they're saying things like TSLAcels, NoCoincels, moneymaxxxing etc...

The vast majority of men are straight up liars exaggerating their success with women. Most guys are incels whether they want to admit it or not. That's why incel slang is proliferating all across the internet.

Even on this board I honestly chuckle at some of the threads about so-call "field reports"... like seriously, there are guys that would waste their own time typing up exaggerated field reports.

It speaks volumes about the fragility of male ego when guys feel the need to lie about their lay count on self-help forums to impress random unknown dudes.

Guys, it's 2021, this is the TikTok and Instagram era, if you're not a 6ft+ Chad with a solid Norwood0 hairline and a fitness model physique, your posts about spinning plates is gonna be quite hard to believe.
 

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It's a good thing you made this thread because there was a certain term that was being used a lot by certain members that kinda annoyed me.

'Chad-lite'

I don't even know what the f*ck that means.
Someone that needs game, not necessarily tight game, in order to get girls rather than not just their looks. They need MORE game than to just not mess it up. Their level of difficulty overall in getting women is generally easier than the average looking guy who might struggle to get the foot in the door and even get noticed. So a chadlite is getting noticed enough in a healthy way, they do READILY form friendships with the opposite sex, get hugs, get attention and generally will have a positive attitude towards women because they have a good-baseline feedback.

Unlike @Mike32ct, I would guage your looks based on how women are treating you in general rather than if you are a solid 7 or whatever. I can only go by a profile of how a chadlite would feel about women based on the way women in general are treating them or going into their spaces, etc....

In that sense, I would classify @SW15 as average, and @BackInTheGame78 as a chadlite based on their self-report posts on their feedback of how women in general treat them. @SW15 tends to have a general negative tone about that feedback and has to persist despite that feedback in order to get results. @BackInTheGame78, by contrast, always talks about having an abundance mentality and having a good pipeline. As long as @BackInTheGame78 is not struggling or is putting on an act of "tight game" and is natural with him, then that would chadlite status.
 

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Self-improvement itself can become cliche if that word is just thrown out and is tone-deaf as to what the realities are in the modern dating market or if it's not backed up by results by your own posts.
Self-improvement means identifying the problem and then taking positive (and often difficult) steps to address it. Self-improvement can never be "cliche" or "tone deaf". One's journey in life is a constant path of self-improvement (or, conversely, self-destruction). Just because the path is difficult doesn't mean you should give up.
 

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Self-improvement means identifying the problem and then taking positive (and often difficult) steps to address it. Self-improvement can never be "cliche" or "tone deaf". One's journey in life is a constant path of self-improvement (or, conversely, self-destruction). Just because the path is difficult doesn't mean you should give up.
Yes, but what works in other areas of life typically doesn't work with women because its a different kettle of fish. As a general concept, of course, there is no disagreement there! I'm wired that way as well since my own religious beliefs of the matter tend towards an eventual "judgment" day where I have to give an account of my time with God, among other things. We put our time where our hearts are. If I'm wasting my time it will hit my conscience in some manner. The idea is general self-improvement principles do not work with women.
 

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Yes, but what works in other areas of life typically doesn't work with women because its a different kettle of fish. As a general concept, of course, there is no disagreement there! I'm wired that way as well since my own religious beliefs of the matter tend towards an eventual "judgment" day where I have to give an account of my time with God, among other things. We put our time where our hearts are. If I'm wasting my time it will hit my conscience in some manner. The idea is general self-improvement principles do not work with women.
What do you mean by "general self-improvement principles"? There is no such thing. Obviously you can't apply the same principles to becoming better with women as you would to, for example, becoming a better athlete or learning to ride a motorcycle.
 
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True - generally from new posters. Most long-time members are not pining after low-interest women.
But you don't know who is a new poster, compared to someone who is banned, or for whatever reason disavows their alias and puts on another allias entirely. This is the internet, and in my mind, a good number of "new posters" have been previously banned.

Barrister said:
Having a better attitude would probably be a good starting point for you. You are probably the most negative person on this forum - and that is saying something.
My attitude is not worst than @SW15 in my opinion. I may be more sensational than he is but I feel the tone about women are about the same.

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But the worst part is that whenever someone offers a suggestion to you you already have a list of excuses ready to go for why their advice doesn't work.
What advise are you talking about and what excuses? The only advise that I can think of coming from you is just about attitude, but nothing much else. Other people, such as @Bigpapa seem to have written me off as a hopeless case because I'm simply too old and poorly connected to make any life change that is drastic or necessary to result in an SMV climb to attract anyone and am simply "just there". If there is anything else I'm all ears.

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You then go a step further and state that this is some universal issue in the dating world when in fact it isn't. Such as earlier in this thread -- that self-improvement will not improve your dating prospects. Which is patently false.
How is that false?
 

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But you don't know who is a new poster, compared to someone who is banned, or for whatever reason disavows their alias and puts on another allias entirely. This is the internet, and in my mind, a good number of "new posters" have been previously banned.



My attitude is not worst than @SW15 in my opinion. I may be more sensational than he is but I feel the tone about women are about the same.



What advise are you talking about and what excuses? The only advise that I can think of coming from you is just about attitude, but nothing much else. Other people, such as @Bigpapa seem to have written me off as a hopeless case because I'm simply too old and poorly connected to make any life change that is drastic or necessary to result in an SMV climb to attract anyone and am simply "just there". If there is anything else I'm all ears.



How is that false?
You and I have gone back and forth in a number of threads now. You know where I stand. I can't speak to anything other posters have said to you because I haven't paid specific attention to it. All I can say is just based on my own general observations you are quick to write off any and all advice and always have a litany of reasons why it is wrong. I am only able to give you general advice about your attitude because that is all I see. You haven't told me where you feel your issues arise with women. It is generally just a more negative philosophical discussion about your lot in life and why you are "black pill."

I have no idea how old you are since you mention that here. I do know plenty of men who continue to have success with women well into their 50s -- so I don't see that as an excuse.
 

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I’m gonna reap the benefits of the book of Pook the next weeks, read some topics and then do my best to get out of here. This place can be like a black hole of negativity if you let it consume you. That’s always up to yourself ofcourse so you gotta weed it out.

if you wanna improve, improve but don’t complain because it doesn’t help you, ever. Ofcourse self-improvement will also improve your chances with women. Not the act itself but more the confidence you exude because you’re working on something. You’ll radiate and people will pick up on it. Okay, you’re ugly and some people around you won the genetic lottery - doesn’t mean you can’t improve tho. It’s a basic principle of life and I really can’t understand when people here think otherwise. People around you must feel it and will be put off. If you can’t at least accept the hand you’re dealt (instead of improving), you’re not living.

yes, the dating world is ****. Deal with it or wallow in pity. At least this means you’ll be able to get an advantage on all the clueless guys out there. Use this as an opportunity to lead and show people how it’s done (male or female).

I do believe there are some people who are hopeless as the only way to get out is if they truly want to.
 

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You haven't told me where you feel your issues arise with women.
Body and head out of proportion. Fatter body but smaller head. Perhaps it looks off. Head round and boyish looking, not looking the age. Inspires maternal pity rather than raw sexual attraction.
 

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Dude, i have no idea. I never use any of these terms not even "incel". Anytime I hear any of those terms, I cringe a bit. I think these dudes just spend too much time on the internet reading about ideas created by nerds. I guarantee you no one in my circles irl know what the hell redpill even is lol
 

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I am only able to give you general advice about your attitude because that is all I see. You haven't told me where you feel your issues arise with women. It is generally just a more negative philosophical discussion about your lot in life and why you are "black pill."
So you think that @SW15 has a positive attitude when his posts about cold approaching says that most women will treat you poorly for either daygame or nightgame approaches. How do you think I would feel about cold approaching if the only "relatable" guy on here says they will treat you poorly. Tell me, how do you get a good attitude about being treated poorly by women?

People may be quoted because when you are introducing any legal argument then a witness to the argument can be called in. Other posts people write can become witnesses to prove a point.

In a court-room where black-pill is on trial, it does better to simply present your case and produce the evidence rather than talk about the attitude of the other lawyer. Lawyers are supposed to have an "attitude" because they are presenting the case. Why did you select a Barrister for your alias? Aren't those the lawyers that argue in courts in the UK.?

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I have no idea how old you are since you mention that here. I do know plenty of men who continue to have success with women well into their 50s -- so I don't see that as an excuse.
I didn't say I was in my 50s. I'm 45. But, hey anything is possible 5 years from now. Maybe I'll become a Don Juan at 50 right?
 

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So you think that @SW15 has a positive attitude when his posts about cold approaching says that most women will treat you poorly for either daygame or nightgame approaches. How do you think I would feel about cold approaching if the only "relatable" guy on here says they will treat you poorly. Tell me, how do you get a good attitude about being treated poorly by women?

People may be quoted because when you are introducing any legal argument then a witness to the argument can be called in. Other posts people write can become witnesses to prove a point.

In a court-room where black-pill is on trial, it does better to simply present your case and produce the evidence rather than talk about the attitude of the other lawyer. Lawyers are supposed to have an "attitude" because they are presenting the case. Why did you select a Barrister for your alias? Aren't those the lawyers that argue in courts in the UK.?



I didn't say I was in my 50s. I'm 45. But, hey anything is possible 5 years from now. Maybe I'll become a Don Juan at 50 right?
Brother, I am not sure what to tell you. This is why it is basically impossible to have any type of conversation with you because you just shoot down literally everything anyone says to you.

How do you get a good attitude about being treated poorly by a woman? First, understand that flakiness and sometimes what we men perceive as "disrespect" are simply part of her nature and she cannot help acting that way. Second, understand that how she treats you has no bearing on the type of man you are and you can simply choose not to care.

As far as putting the "black pill" on trial I am not sure what you are trying to say. I am all for the death penalty for it though lol. And yes, a barrister is the term for English attorneys.
 

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Tell me, how do you get a good attitude about being treated poorly by women?
Take a break from game, do things you enjoy, commiserate with your buddies about bitches (like women do about us), go see an escort, hit the gym vigorously, have interactions with girls with no intention of trying to game them. Take a couple of weeks off and see if anything changes in your outlook.
 

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if you wanna improve, improve but don’t complain because it doesn’t help you, ever. Ofcourse self-improvement will also improve your chances with women. Not the act itself but more the confidence you exude because you’re working on something. You’ll radiate and people will pick up on it. Okay, you’re ugly and some people around you won the genetic lottery - doesn’t mean you can’t improve tho. It’s a basic principle of life and I really can’t understand when people here think otherwise. People around you must feel it and will be put off. If you can’t at least accept the hand you’re dealt (instead of improving), you’re not living.

yes, the dating world is ****. Deal with it or wallow in pity. At least this means you’ll be able to get an advantage on all the clueless guys out there. Use this as an opportunity to lead and show people how it’s done (male or female).

I do believe there are some people who are hopeless as the only way to get out is if they truly want to.
I think a lot of the negativity of the black pillers isn't so much that the dating world sucks, it's that the dating world sucks *and* is getting worse with no reversal in sight. As alt-right blogger Vox Day (who came up with the "sigma male" concept) has written, SJW's always Double Down. This can be extended to anyone who espouses a victim mentality, as most women do. The implications of this are that even if all men abandoned women in the dating field tomorrow, you wouldn't see them reacting by improving their behavior; rather, they'd wallow in self-pity instead of making themselves more attractive to men. It may take a societal collapse for this to happen.

Obviously the black-pillers are guilty of wallowing themselves, but to a certain degree they are justified in their outlook. For some guys, they may see dating scene getting worse at a faster rate than they themselves can improve.
 
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