devilkingx2
Master Don Juan
I need to know, it'll make my daygame approaches much easier.
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
What's the perfect amount of alcohol that will boost your confidence without making you obviously drunk?
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"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
logicallefty
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A good caffeine buzz does the trick for me on a day that I otherwise feel m'eh. But if you are going to do alcohol to get yourself to the state of mind you are looking for it's probably going to take some trial and error. Maybe lots of it. Different drinks in different quantities in different bodies produce different results. The short answer I guess would be "No more than necessary"
devilkingx2
Master Don Juan
I'm not a super hardcore drinker or anything, beer and wine doesn't do much but anything stronger will get me drunk pretty fast. so i'll err on the side of caution and just have a rum and coke beforehand if I need one
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
devilkingx2
Master Don Juan
I wouldn't say need, it'd just make it easier some of the time. I do pretty much all my approaches sober, but today I came across a really hot girl that I couldn't approach and thought, "I bet this would be easier if I had 3 shots first"
There's other things too that would be easier with a bit of a boost, a weakness of my game has often been not being bold/ballsy or quick enough.
this thread is mostly a thought experiment, a consideration and maybe something to test rather than a plan of action
characternote
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For me, the sweet spot is about 3 pints of lager. I feel a buzz and feel confident, but i'm not really 'drunk'.
''If you need alcohol to boost confidence I think you probably need to do some work on you. ''
not really. You could be a naturally confident person, but you'd STILL likely get a 'boost' in confidence after a few drinks. Can't fight chemistry! Besides, lots of people already 'work' on themselves and meditate and workout and have a job and have hobbies and all the rest of the 'inner game' typical advice handled, and still struggle bad with confidence/approaching hot girls. It's all quite situational
For day game though, there's maybe better drugs that have a more anxiety killing/confidence boosting effect. Look into phenibut for one
''If you need alcohol to boost confidence I think you probably need to do some work on you. ''
not really. You could be a naturally confident person, but you'd STILL likely get a 'boost' in confidence after a few drinks. Can't fight chemistry! Besides, lots of people already 'work' on themselves and meditate and workout and have a job and have hobbies and all the rest of the 'inner game' typical advice handled, and still struggle bad with confidence/approaching hot girls. It's all quite situational
For day game though, there's maybe better drugs that have a more anxiety killing/confidence boosting effect. Look into phenibut for one
Papa_smu
Banned
zero drinks
That's how many you need to be confident. That and constant exposure to approaching complete strangers who are the opposite sex.
That's how many you need to be confident. That and constant exposure to approaching complete strangers who are the opposite sex.
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Murk
Master Don Juan
2/3 pints of beer/lager
or 3 shots
or 2 double vodka soda water and fresh lime
or 2 double gin and tonics
that gives me slight buzz/feel good but definitely not drunk
You will have to test it out yourself, your tolerance is likely weaker than mine plus genetically everyone will differ
or 3 shots
or 2 double vodka soda water and fresh lime
or 2 double gin and tonics
that gives me slight buzz/feel good but definitely not drunk
You will have to test it out yourself, your tolerance is likely weaker than mine plus genetically everyone will differ
I disagree all the alcoholics I have known were miserable people who hated life in general..I have known confident people with poor impulse control...it's all about self control.
They drink to feel better about themselves and feel more confident. Poor inpulse and self control do not come from internal strength and self confidence.
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mrgoodstuff
Master Don Juan
Zero. You act stupider on alcohol. But if you have to 1-2 drinks. Its a bull**** puszy crutch cause your confidence is lacking.
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
Mike32ct
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I will say that it is tough to vibe with drunk or buzzed people if you are sober.
Murk
Master Don Juan
Drunk people maybe but buzzed no.
I love how everyone is a doctor here too. Do you know how many people use alcohol for confidence boosts? Plenty of you posting here that’s for sure.
mrgoodstuff
Master Don Juan
This may be true. If your sober youll notice the convo getting stupider
devilkingx2
Master Don Juan
Lmfao best post in the thread so far
"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.