"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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What do you think of Ross Jeffries, Sinn and all those other pick up artists material

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IMO some of it has its place while others dont. Has any one actually used speed seduction and had success with it? I do like maniacs pick up guide at alt.fast. seduction though, a lot of good info.

http://www.pickupguide.com/
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I've always liked Sinn's stuff, but he's got El Topo on his azz recently over some very AFC traits he has. A number of bootcamp students witnessed this too. I remember reading El Topo's blog on the incident between him and Sinn and how he's a d!ckhead towards his friends within the community and a student caught him texting and getting angry at some girl over text during bootcamp - we're all human, but I'm sure this isn't a good review for someone wanting to take his bootcamps or hasn't learned from his theories yet.

Where did you get Maniac's stuff?


Regardless to say, Sinn has some good shyt.
 

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"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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kingsam said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xn_oqEOtLYU

this is Ross Jefferies right?

NOT COOL

i vaugely recal ross in The Game, seemed whack all his "attracting women by arm movement and touching crap ..."

picking up dumb women by cold reading is not the way to do it - become a better man first ... then be Naturally attractive with a strong personality ...etc...


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another link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0UCLnt1RCY&feature=related
look at the girls face at 4.02 stare of "what a feak" ! :rolleyes:
Defiantly agree with that though.
 

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HeyPachuco! said:
I've always liked Sinn's stuff, but he's got El Topo on his azz recently over some very AFC traits he has. A number of bootcamp students witnessed this too. I remember reading El Topo's blog on the incident between him and Sinn and how he's a d!ckhead towards his friends within the community and a student caught him texting and getting angry at some girl over text during bootcamp - we're all human, but I'm sure this isn't a good review for someone wanting to take his bootcamps or hasn't learned from his theories yet.

Where did you get Maniac's stuff?


Regardless to say, Sinn has some good shyt.
I usually take a bit of everybodys s*it and combine them. Shi* gets confusing after a while man. Maniacs on fast seduction. He has some good stuff.
 

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Read/watch/listen to it all, then take what you want and leave the rest. NLP is effective, if you have the patience to do it. I started in 1997 reading all the shyt I could and it's been a great boon, but you can learn 95% of what you need to know in a month or two. I never did any seminars or bootcamps and the only money I spent was on one of R. Don Steele's books which I enjoyed.
 

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kingsam said:
who was in the videos i linked
thought it was ross as the presenter calls the guy ross i think...
It is Ross Jeffries.... and he defintely was doing hypnosis techniques on her (i picked up on 2 of them.) I think his stuff would work if someone dedicated themselves to it (you can't half@ss NLP/Hypnosis and expect it to work). But - really.... who wants to do all that to get women?

In general - it's my opinion is that anything will work if you believe in it enough....

why? because unconsciously - you will gain a mountain of confidence.... which in many cases will be much more effective than any technique....
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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