"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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What do you think of Ross Jeffries, Sinn and all those other pick up artists material

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IMO some of it has its place while others dont. Has any one actually used speed seduction and had success with it? I do like maniacs pick up guide at alt.fast. seduction though, a lot of good info.

http://www.pickupguide.com/
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I've always liked Sinn's stuff, but he's got El Topo on his azz recently over some very AFC traits he has. A number of bootcamp students witnessed this too. I remember reading El Topo's blog on the incident between him and Sinn and how he's a d!ckhead towards his friends within the community and a student caught him texting and getting angry at some girl over text during bootcamp - we're all human, but I'm sure this isn't a good review for someone wanting to take his bootcamps or hasn't learned from his theories yet.

Where did you get Maniac's stuff?


Regardless to say, Sinn has some good shyt.
 

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"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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kingsam said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xn_oqEOtLYU

this is Ross Jefferies right?

NOT COOL

i vaugely recal ross in The Game, seemed whack all his "attracting women by arm movement and touching crap ..."

picking up dumb women by cold reading is not the way to do it - become a better man first ... then be Naturally attractive with a strong personality ...etc...


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another link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0UCLnt1RCY&feature=related
look at the girls face at 4.02 stare of "what a feak" ! :rolleyes:
Defiantly agree with that though.
 

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HeyPachuco! said:
I've always liked Sinn's stuff, but he's got El Topo on his azz recently over some very AFC traits he has. A number of bootcamp students witnessed this too. I remember reading El Topo's blog on the incident between him and Sinn and how he's a d!ckhead towards his friends within the community and a student caught him texting and getting angry at some girl over text during bootcamp - we're all human, but I'm sure this isn't a good review for someone wanting to take his bootcamps or hasn't learned from his theories yet.

Where did you get Maniac's stuff?


Regardless to say, Sinn has some good shyt.
I usually take a bit of everybodys s*it and combine them. Shi* gets confusing after a while man. Maniacs on fast seduction. He has some good stuff.
 

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Read/watch/listen to it all, then take what you want and leave the rest. NLP is effective, if you have the patience to do it. I started in 1997 reading all the shyt I could and it's been a great boon, but you can learn 95% of what you need to know in a month or two. I never did any seminars or bootcamps and the only money I spent was on one of R. Don Steele's books which I enjoyed.
 

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kingsam said:
who was in the videos i linked
thought it was ross as the presenter calls the guy ross i think...
It is Ross Jeffries.... and he defintely was doing hypnosis techniques on her (i picked up on 2 of them.) I think his stuff would work if someone dedicated themselves to it (you can't half@ss NLP/Hypnosis and expect it to work). But - really.... who wants to do all that to get women?

In general - it's my opinion is that anything will work if you believe in it enough....

why? because unconsciously - you will gain a mountain of confidence.... which in many cases will be much more effective than any technique....
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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