She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.
You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.
The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
I'd advise changing your game. Third-party observers, especially women, tend to be particularly good at seeing through whatever veil you're wearing. In the rare case that their claim is unjustifiable, then it's probably a good idea to not let the bastards get you down. Focus on the girl. Demonstrate with your undivided attention that the world doesn't matter when you're with her. On the other hand, if you can't do that because you are not genuinely interested, you'll just come off as a fake.donjuan87 said:What do you do when you are at talking to a girl and someone says "he just wants a piece of ass"?
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
Well said.( . )( . ) said:Try to make those beta/ug/society shame tactics slide right off your back mate.
If you weren't interested in her, you wouldn't be concerned about some guy's off-the-wall comment.donjuan87 said:To Demon: I wasn't running any game on her. I was just talking to be friendly, and also it was a guy who made the comment.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
It's not about that, it's about reputation. I go to a pretty small university, and you have to worry about your reputation. I know guys who follow the philosophy "the guy who gets rejected the most leaves with the most numbers" (i.e. hitting on a girl without getting any IOIs first) and they have bad reputations, especially among girls.Demon said:If you weren't interested in her, you wouldn't be concerned about some guy's off-the-wall comment.
Say, "No I don't want a piece, I want the WHOLE THING!"donjuan87 said:What do you do when you are at talking to a girl and someone says "he just wants a piece of ass"?
squirrels said:Say, "No I don't want a piece, I want the WHOLE THING!"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
Get the **** out of here.donjuan87 said:Does anyone have some real advice?
donjuan87 said:Does anyone have some real advice?
see bro, that's the kind of stuff that makes people not want to respond to your post. Guys are taking time out to help you out, even if you don't agree w/ it appreciate it.donjuan87 said:Does anyone have some real advice?
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.