"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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What do you all think about this?

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Bamaboi

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Thanks for the advice ..I'm gone to shoot one more shot at her...f**ck it
 

oldmanofthesea

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.the day she asked where I was at ..so I can't say she wasn't never interested....that's what's confusing me
You are projecting your interest on her so much that you take ONE thing out of 5,000 definite indicators of disinterest and decide it means she wants you. What kind of dignity and self respect do you have as a man to repeatedly try to connect with a girl who has pushed you away FOR YEARS?

She may have dialed the wrong number when she called you or she may have thought she saw you stalking her and that’s why she was asking, but even if it was a legit reach-out on her behalf, no self respecting man would give her the time of day.
 

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Jesus Christ I thought people like this only existed in the movies as super psycho stalkers.

OP- keep blowing her phone up. Shell come around when she sees your persistence.

Make sure to keep buying new phones to message her from when she plays "hard to get" and blocks you again.

Make sure to send her a dozen roses for Vday. Nah...go ahead and hand deliver them AT HER WORK. That will impress her. Attach a heart felt poem that you personally write, a stuffed bear and chocolates. Better take your mom with you to help carry it all in. Plus you can introduce your mom to her while she is there. Kill 2 birds with one stone. Make sure to introduce her as "your future wife" when introducing her to your mother.

Persistence pays off! Dont take NO for an answer. I think you're right.....I think there is a chance but you'll have to go big or go home!

Make sure you let all know how it goes!
 
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