"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
What avenues of pick up have you abandoned as being useless in your opinion?
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"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
wifehunter
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Day game sucks if you go out to day game. It's very low volume unless your in a busy downtown area. I found that it's better to just go out and run your errands. If you spot a cutie, then approach.
Night game is what I've been really getting into now that I'm not afraid to approach. I actually have wings now and I've been having a blast going out. A lot of the numbers I get don't go anywhere, but I like that it's high volume and very fun.
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
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Night Clubs without a doubt. I honestly think in today's market, it's BEST to go to Night Clubs with either a social group (and dance with girls or a girl within said social group) or go with a girl individually.
The strategy of going to the Night Clubs with a group of dudes or just yourself, then hitting on random girls within the Night Club, is just a bad strategy today.
RangerMIke
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TheGambino
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It's just my thing. Plus I know a lot of people in my region, so I always got social proof and I'm a party animal, girls look around see all the guys being boring f*cks and then see me dance and have fun, they love to join in. From that point I quickly approach, isolate and kiss close.
Can't really think of an avenue I would abandon, almost every environment could be a good situation to flirt and close imo. I flirt and approach in every situation. When I was lean and worked out a lot a couple of months ago my self esteem reached the roof, I would approach and close every girl I liked, now I got a bit lazy due work and school and Im not as hard as the summer. Picking the gym up again from tonight on and will report back with some nice reports soon.
RangerMIke
Master Don Juan
On Line Dating.
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Depending on age and or what you've got going on in life/ holds more priority. Not everyone is going to live on OLD, go to clubs or walk around on the street doing random approaches.
Like every other situation.. it comes down to VALUE.
The problem with night clubs is most women are just there to attention wh0re or be a slut. The TRASH ratio is higher with the exception of the very young girls (18-22). Its also where men tend to act the most DESPERATE.
Because of the high level of attention women receive, they are much less open to MOST guys that talk to them unless the guy shows superior VALUE to all her other options. Its been proven that women become more selective in environments where they get more male attention.
You can pull in clubs if you have some kind of competitive advantage. Problem is most guys DON'T. They are just another thirsty dude with mediocre game, mediocre looks and mediocre finances lol. Nothing for a woman to get "excited" about.
marmel75
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I stopped cold approaching in malls after I closed a 16 year old by mistake lol.
Maybe I'll try again now that holidays are coming up and more HOT women will be flooding shopping centers.