"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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What avenues of pick up have you abandoned as being useless in your opinion?

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Which avenue of pickup have you tried and abandoned as either useless or a waste of your time as you have more success elsewhere or better things to do?

Day game?

Social Circle?

OLD?

Clubs?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Which avenue of pickup have you tried and abandoned as either useless or a waste of your time as you have more success elsewhere or better things to do?

Day game?

Social Circle?

OLD?

Clubs?
They all have a purpose in the game. Relying on any one method is a downfall, as is counting out any of them
 

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Which avenue of pickup have you tried and abandoned as either useless or a waste of your time as you have more success elsewhere or better things to do?

Day game?

Social Circle?

OLD?

Clubs?
Anything where I have to go 'out of my way' has been noneffective. So clubs and OLD are out. Day game, in my case...everyday normal stuff like stores and shopping malls is clearly a better option. I can talk to anyone. Dead easy, and fun!!!
 

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When I first came here I pretty much only did OLD. I didn't have many friends to go out with and was afraid to approach. Now, I only swipe on Tinder when I'm bored.

Day game sucks if you go out to day game. It's very low volume unless your in a busy downtown area. I found that it's better to just go out and run your errands. If you spot a cutie, then approach.

Night game is what I've been really getting into now that I'm not afraid to approach. I actually have wings now and I've been having a blast going out. A lot of the numbers I get don't go anywhere, but I like that it's high volume and very fun.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Which avenue of pickup have you tried and abandoned as either useless or a waste of your time as you have more success elsewhere or better things to do?

Day game?

Social Circle?

OLD?

Clubs?
Night Clubs without a doubt. I honestly think in today's market, it's BEST to go to Night Clubs with either a social group (and dance with girls or a girl within said social group) or go with a girl individually.

The strategy of going to the Night Clubs with a group of dudes or just yourself, then hitting on random girls within the Night Club, is just a bad strategy today.
 

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I like club game a lot. I like dancing (im not bad), I can get things pretty fast cexual with a girl in a club or bar and heat girls up with my moves and style.
It's just my thing. Plus I know a lot of people in my region, so I always got social proof and I'm a party animal, girls look around see all the guys being boring f*cks and then see me dance and have fun, they love to join in. From that point I quickly approach, isolate and kiss close.

Can't really think of an avenue I would abandon, almost every environment could be a good situation to flirt and close imo. I flirt and approach in every situation. When I was lean and worked out a lot a couple of months ago my self esteem reached the roof, I would approach and close every girl I liked, now I got a bit lazy due work and school and Im not as hard as the summer. Picking the gym up again from tonight on and will report back with some nice reports soon.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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They all have a purpose in the game. Relying on any one method is a downfall, as is counting out any of them
Depending on age and or what you've got going on in life/ holds more priority. Not everyone is going to live on OLD, go to clubs or walk around on the street doing random approaches.
 

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Night Clubs without a doubt. I honestly think in today's market, it's BEST to go to Night Clubs with either a social group (and dance with girls or a girl within said social group) or go with a girl individually.

The strategy of going to the Night Clubs with a group of dudes or just yourself, then hitting on random girls within the Night Club, is just a bad strategy today.
Like every other situation.. it comes down to VALUE.

The problem with night clubs is most women are just there to attention wh0re or be a slut. The TRASH ratio is higher with the exception of the very young girls (18-22). Its also where men tend to act the most DESPERATE.

Because of the high level of attention women receive, they are much less open to MOST guys that talk to them unless the guy shows superior VALUE to all her other options. Its been proven that women become more selective in environments where they get more male attention.

You can pull in clubs if you have some kind of competitive advantage. Problem is most guys DON'T. They are just another thirsty dude with mediocre game, mediocre looks and mediocre finances lol. Nothing for a woman to get "excited" about.
 

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There are no useless ones. Guys will always do better in some areas than they will in others. So for most guys they would do well to identify what those areas are and then stick to them to keep the pipeline filled while working on in improving in the other areas.
 

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Yeah, I have done very well in malls recently (just happened to be there). I think the mall employees don't see too many good looking guys there so they can be very open and even aggressive. It's a good feeling, it's almost like how a hot girl feels in a bar.
I stopped cold approaching in malls after I closed a 16 year old by mistake lol.

Maybe I'll try again now that holidays are coming up and more HOT women will be flooding shopping centers.
 
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