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Basically.... Every one is different crap...but...
Patterns arise I'm sure.
Patterns arise I'm sure.
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
What are some things that show a females attraction and commitment level?
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“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
mrgoodstuff
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Break down in your car like an hour out and let her come get you.
Girls who submit are great. Until they leave you and you know what they are up to. But at least you were first.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Who cares if they leave?
A woman who "leaves" is not on the same page as you. Would you rather have a short relationship on YOUR terms or a long relationship on a woman's terms?
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Trust your gut, if something doesnt work your gut is the first one to notice and communicate it to you via discomfort, stress and a light sense of frustration that grows the longer you ignore it.
I'd prefer to have a short term relationship on my terms.
That said, when a girl I think is a 10 leaves me (something that has happened to me about 5-10 times in my life), I care. Always. If I didn't, I wouldn't have been inspired to improve to begin with.
logicallefty
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If she reaches out to you before you do her on a given day, she is attracted.
If you reach your lowest point in life and she stays, she is committed.
If you reach your lowest point in life and she stays, she is committed.
It shouldn't matter if she is a 10 or not.
If a woman isn't on the same page as you.. there is no reason you should want to be with her. I only want to be with a 10 if she will be a good addition to my life. If she is going to be a c*nt she can get lost.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Ok, well when a 10 goes from being on the same page to not being on the same page, I care. And I never call her names.
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Are they working to keep you happy or are you working to keep them happy?
How is that working out for you so far?
I had sex with one this month, and two slightly lesser females, 5 in the past 2 months, so not bad.
Assuming time is money:
If I'm talking about how great a woman is, she is providing me a good value. If I were "paying for it" that would imply it were "for sale". How much does a night of mad, passionate sex with your dream girl cost?
Answer: a little more than a girl who looks at her watch for an hour and then goes to the next stop on the train. But people hard on cash will imply that paying for dinner implies paying a street walker.
The answer to the question "Did he pay for it?" is always yes. It's about how much. A penny is a good deal. A million not so much. Somewhere in between lies the optimal value (called the price point). I think it's a function of earnings. How much do you think Donald Trump spent on his first date with Melania? Think they went to the corner bar for a Bud Light on her? So it's not about "did you spend any money?" it's about "did she provide a good value?"
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
I was referring to "caring" when a 10 leaves you because you are not on the same page.
The point I'm making is that wanting to be with a sh!tty person just because they are a 10 makes a man seem desperate.
daddymonsterpoodle
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This whole hb10 stuff is a bit tedious. Go for women you are attracted to sure but if you don't like their personality what is the point? I am not an hb10 either. Find women that make you happy. Everyone else can go f-ck themselves. If you like fat, tattooed, bald girls with a moustache and a lederhosen fetish that is your own business.
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A girl that is into you is going to make it easy on your because she wants you to feel that it is easy to be with her. She will be available, she will be happy, she will be kinoing you. I guess the commitment level can be gauged by having this occur on an ongoing manner. You can also tell by her actions where she is at with you. And listen to her words. If her words match her deeds, or the deeds exceed what she is saying, there is high interest there.
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Assuming OP wanted an answer that showed "attraction AND commitment" (as in all in one) I would say "attachment".
If she frequently wants to be with you (around you) then that is attraction and commitment.
If she frequently wants to be with you (around you) then that is attraction and commitment.
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She asks how she can help you, then she helps; she sticks with you when things are tough; she doesn't complain, she is giving of physical attention; she stops what she is doing or talking about when you need to do something or talk about something; she creates for you a respite and comfortable environment in which to recharge; she gives you peace & space to decompress; she cares for you demonstrably and consistently. In doing the above things she loves you.
Love is an action verb. When you love someone you do loving things. Observe what she is doing. Her actions are what show you attraction & commitment.
Love is an action verb. When you love someone you do loving things. Observe what she is doing. Her actions are what show you attraction & commitment.
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.