"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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ketostix

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How could 2 opposing theories both work? That would invalidate both of them.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Agent Zero....are you talking to yourself? :nono:

and to kerostix, they both works but direct just works better!!! MUAHAHAHhahah.:moon:
 

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Evidence that direct works better or at all? If two totally different things have the same outcome then there's no casation. Something else would be the reason they worked.
 

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evidence? There are more indirect guys posting on sosuave than direct guys. Hmmm....you get the idea.
 

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Just because more guys are ineffectively doing something doesn't mean the method is ineffective. There's plenty of post of guys doing indirect and getting results. Where are the direct method results?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Agent Zero said:
geez, zero, your attitude is so smug...why does it have to be direct vs. indirect...why can't both work? I am an advocate of both direct game and natural indirect game, I just don't like canned indirect.

SMUG... I like that!

It isn't direct vs. indirect for me it is Indirect.. only.

I see absolutly no direct besides the guy in the mall... and that was so freaking weak!!!

guy: hi I seen you...
girl: ok....
guy: um...so can I have your #
girl: ok....
guy: *pulls phone* (i'm sure that isn't all he pulled that night)
girl: *gives #*

Ta da!...... WoW!

what the hell is this guy going to talk about when he calls?
If it is actually her # and not wood.
Than if and a big IF here, what kind of convo will they have when he sets something up?

It just sucks is all I was being so smug about..

But you don't have to take my word on it... *cut*
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Still no DA Video.???
 

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Ur basing one video on negative results with direct? C'mon now.
 

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DonJoseCantosie said:
Ur basing one video on negative results with direct? C'mon now.
Yes. I am bashing one video and one video only.

It sucked.

I am not bashing one method because of this video. However; I would like to see some good DA videos.
 
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